Every page on my website is set up in columns. The first column on the left is for links from the current page to every other product page on the site. I don't use frames, every page links to every other page.
I would like to eliminate the links on every page and use an include file for those links to make it easier to add new links and maintain my site.
If I use an include file, will Google see the web pages as physically having the links on them, as they do now? In other words, if each page has 50 links, and I have 50 pages, then they probably count 250 links on my site.
If I use an include file, will they only cont 50 links on my site?
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Include File For Internal Links
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alan
, Jun 12 2007 07:37 PM
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:01 PM
QUOTE(alan @ Jun 13 2007, 08:37 AM) 
Every page on my website is set up in columns. The first column on the left is for links from the current page to every other product page on the site. I don't use frames, every page links to every other page.
I would like to eliminate the links on every page and use an include file for those links to make it easier to add new links and maintain my site.
If I use an include file, will Google see the web pages as physically having the links on them, as they do now? In other words, if each page has 50 links, and I have 50 pages, then they probably count 250 links on my site.
If I use an include file, will they only cont 50 links on my site?
I would like to eliminate the links on every page and use an include file for those links to make it easier to add new links and maintain my site.
If I use an include file, will Google see the web pages as physically having the links on them, as they do now? In other words, if each page has 50 links, and I have 50 pages, then they probably count 250 links on my site.
If I use an include file, will they only cont 50 links on my site?
Google sees what every other user sees when they hit your site, it just sees the innards (code). Include files are really about making your code easier to use when programming, the end result will look pretty much the same.
I'm not sure what you're talking about with the link count though. If you've got 50 pages and you link to all of them from all of them, then you get credit for 50 links. Not sure how you'd get 250 links.
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 12:02 AM
Assuming you're using real server side includes and not FrontPage includes, it's going to look exactly the same as it would if each of the pages had the include file... included. The only way to see that SSI is in use is by getting in to the server via a protocol other than HTTP and grabbing the page before the server gets a chance to put it all together.
In other words, let's say you've got two files: page.htm and stuff.inc. If page.htm's <body> is
Then any user-agent (browser, spider, whatever) that requests page.htm will get
In other words, let's say you've got two files: page.htm and stuff.inc. If page.htm's <body> is
HTML
<p>Blah blah blah</p>
<!--#include virtual="/stuff.inc" -->
<p>Blah blah blah</p>
and stuff.inc's content is <!--#include virtual="/stuff.inc" -->
<p>Blah blah blah</p>
HTML
<p>La di da</p>
Then any user-agent (browser, spider, whatever) that requests page.htm will get
HTML
<p>Blah blah blah</p>
<p>La di da</p>
<p>Blah blah blah</p>
<p>La di da</p>
<p>Blah blah blah</p>
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 06:39 AM
BTW 50 * 50 = 2500
but no matter how you calculate it you will only have 50 links to 50 different URLs
but no matter how you calculate it you will only have 50 links to 50 different URLs
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 01:05 PM
QUOTE(chrishirst @ Jun 13 2007, 07:39 AM)
BTW 50 * 50 = 2500
but no matter how you calculate it you will only have 50 links to 50 different URLs
but no matter how you calculate it you will only have 50 links to 50 different URLs
Since I don't drink (except for skim milk) I guess I was pretty tired when I did that math!!
But I'm still confused. If each page has a link to every other page, how do you get 50 links out of that?
As far as that other matter, sorry to say that I'm using FrontPage. Does that matter?
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 02:43 PM
Ok, without getting into the realms of eigenvalues and vector analysis 
Considering internal navigation links only;
50 nodes (pages), all link out to 50 nodes. Therefore to any given node there is 50 incoming links.
The 2500 links are circulating the link value (both internal & external).
And they say "reciprocal linking is dead".
Considering internal navigation links only;
50 nodes (pages), all link out to 50 nodes. Therefore to any given node there is 50 incoming links.
The 2500 links are circulating the link value (both internal & external).
And they say "reciprocal linking is dead".
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Posted 14 June 2007 - 09:47 AM
Actually, if there are 50 pages and they each link out to all the other pages, I'm pretty sure each page would have 49 incoming links. The 50th link on each page would be a link from the page back to itself, and I'm pretty sure self-referential links don't count as "incoming."
Of course, it's early and I haven't had my full dose of caffeine yet, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong (as if I have to prompt anybody here for that one...
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Sorry, degree in accounting. Can't help it...
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Of course, it's early and I haven't had my full dose of caffeine yet, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong (as if I have to prompt anybody here for that one...
)Sorry, degree in accounting. Can't help it...
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 04:55 AM
QUOTE(alan @ Jun 13 2007, 06:07 AM)
Every page on my website is set up in columns. The first column on the left is for links from the current page to every other product page on the site. I don't use frames, every page links to every other page.
I would like to eliminate the links on every page and use an include file for those links to make it easier to add new links and maintain my site.
If I use an include file, will Google see the web pages as physically having the links on them, as they do now? In other words, if each page has 50 links, and I have 50 pages, then they probably count 250 links on my site.
If I use an include file, will they only cont 50 links on my site?
I would like to eliminate the links on every page and use an include file for those links to make it easier to add new links and maintain my site.
If I use an include file, will Google see the web pages as physically having the links on them, as they do now? In other words, if each page has 50 links, and I have 50 pages, then they probably count 250 links on my site.
If I use an include file, will they only cont 50 links on my site?
Using Include fine will be better option. It will make your site more accessible and 50*50= 2500 links and not 250..
well make sure to add a sitemap too if you have not added and link it to every page of your site and then googlebot easily find your all pages ...
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 09:40 AM
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It will make your site more accessible
How exactly??
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:04 AM
Here is some more fingers to help the count...
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