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Seo Friendly Shopping Cart Software?


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#16 arlen

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE(tomynate @ Aug 20 2007, 03:20 PM) View Post
At one point I understood that static html pages was of major importance for search engines.

I may be wrong on this, but ... many people feel the .htm or .html extension is given preference in the SE's, and that may be true to some very minor degree, but many .php / .asp / etc. sites rank very well, so I don't buy it. I personally find static pages desirable for both the potential server-load issue, but more-so for dial-up user experience. Most cart / store software create hugely bloated code, and any advantage you can provide on load times benefits these users. Though broadband is gaining in market share here in the US, there are areas where it is not available or too expensive for the average new user.
QUOTE(tomynate @ Aug 20 2007, 03:20 PM) View Post
Also, X-Cart says $199 for their cart but a site that compares them with several others indicates I should expect $800+ for licenses. Can you give me some input on this? This is a little wordy, but this is the kind of thread I need to stay sane.

I looked at X-Cart and found this to be true. It has a huge user base, but with their pricing structure to get the store I wanted meant purchasing multiple add-ons per site, and living with tons of standard features I won't use bloating the sizes of my pages. What they don't offer is filled in by 3rd party add-ons that also cost additional fees. They actively discourage anyone from offering free mods, and have run off many of their most helpful and productive forum users.

I thought I made a wise decision choosing CS-Cart, a relatively new cart whose userbase is largely composed of disgruntled current or ex-X-Cart users. It includes a huge amount of the add-ons that you would have to pay for individually w/ X-Cart. They are quite aggressive in adding new functions and have had numerous releases in the year + since I purchased the software. The developers uesed to be mod providers for X-Cart, and though this is a ground-up system it has a lot of similarities.

However .. their template system is a bear to edit (Smarty, but way too many files), and it generates pages w/ tables nested sometimes 3 or 4 levels deep (X-Cart may do this too). Upgrading w/ each new release isn't an easy task for the average joe, though one regular user offers to "port your modifications" to a new version for free ... not sure how he does it. It has the ability to convert your catalog and product pages to html, though it does not do that for the CMS (general content) pages of your site, which is completely stupid in my mind. Though the html generation is included even in the most recent beta version, they've threatened to drop it in the future in favor of their SEO mod-rewrite capabilities so they've not spent any time improving it. The search function also returns only the .php versions of pages, and there are some navigation quirks, so I believe there is a real possibility of duplicate content issues in the SE's.

In time I think these guys may be the place to be, but the more I dig into it, the more discouraged I become. 'Almost there' but not quite. They are completely focused on adding new features, and do a great job at that, but I feel their focus right now should be on refining the existing features rather than adding new stuff. They remain at under $200 for lifetime free upgrades for all added features, and offer discounts for purchases after the 1st.

Just throwing another option out there, but for myself, I'm honestly not sure what my next step will be. I'm going to try to strip this down to a basic but usable cart, avoiding the problem features for now, and hope to get the html conversion worked out to my satisfaction, that was it's big selling point for me. But it's taken me far longer than I had to invest already and I still don't have a new store that works as I think it should. I may once again be to a point where I'm looking at other options ... till they fix my concerns. I wasn't thrilled w/ what I found last time I looked. Cube-Cart looked best to me at the time (another free OSC clone).

Edited by arlen, 24 August 2007 - 01:46 PM.


#17 michael_ter

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 04:34 AM

[quote name='arlen' date='Aug 24 2007, 01:33 PM' post='259685']

I thought I made a wise decision choosing CS-Cart...

Cube-Cart looked best to me at the time (another free OSC clone)...
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At the moment I use two different shop. carts in different site - modified OsCOmmerce and "ready to use" Shop-Script. Both work fine but I am looking for something else as I am not entirely conetnt with both of them. After much tries I stopped at two carts - CubeCart and CS-Cart :-) . CubeCart is perfect for small sites, it is well addopted for SEO, there is even a mod for "natural looking URLs", it is light (only about 30 tables in database), easy to customize skins/templates, much payment moduls but it has some serious "no" - problems with e-mail notifications (many users complain), no built-in import/export and backup functions (only through phpMyAdmin). But they say that the new version which might be released soon will be better.

As to the Cs-Cart it is very cart with much (I dare to say with all possible) features. It is more appropriate for large sites. It has 159 tables in database and, I guess, it is necessary to payment more attention in selection of a host provider. They promise new version, much modified, by the end of September. There is other similar in function cart - IXXO cart but it costs about $750.


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Posted 30 August 2007 - 07:08 PM

What actually happens when you generate static pages on these shopping carts?
Does it generate another pagewhich is identicle but static. Does it create actual html pages? If so what hapens when you update?

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 03:16 AM

Some create physical identical pages and updating overwrites them.

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 04:50 AM

Others simply create what are fake static-looking page addresses and use mod_rewrite. Which of course can have a negative effect on site/server performance if you have a busy site.

From the SysAdmin perspective I much prefer the types Chris mentioned above. For server load reasons, not SEO.

#21 michael_ter

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 10:52 AM

QUOTE(Randy @ Aug 31 2007, 04:50 AM) View Post
From the SysAdmin perspective I much prefer the types Chris mentioned above. For server load reasons, not SEO.


But it is made for SEO, not for server load reason :-) But to be serious if servers (web and database) are overloaded a site gets slow down. So you as sysadmin are right.

Can you list shopping carts that generate static pages?

#22 Jimmy Dunne

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 12:28 PM

shopsite and xcart are good.

#23 Jimmy Dunne

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 12:29 PM

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I may be wrong on this, but ... many people feel the .htm or .html extension is given preference in the SE's, and that may be true to some very minor degree, but many .php / .asp / etc. sites rank very well, so I don't buy it.


Yeah, that's totally not true. You might see an .html extension in the SERP's more, but that doesn't take into account the fact that most people use .html more.

#24 Edvin Eshagh

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 06:27 PM

QUOTE(tomynate @ Aug 20 2007, 04:20 PM) View Post
I have been with Sunshop for the last 3 years. They recently upgraded to a bigger and better program, but there are no helps or documentation plus I have to know CSS and what is set up in CSS and what in html. Ruined a good cart for me. I have been looking into X-Cart and I have looked at Zen Cart. The difference between the two, other than price, is X-Cart has static html for categories, sub categries, and products where it does not appear that Zen Cart does. At one point I understood that static html pages was of major importance for search engines. You are recommening both carts so I am wondering if there is a difference to SE's now. I am trying to get back in the loop now so I can make an intelligent decision. Also, X-Cart says $199 for their cart but a site that compares them with several others indicates I should expect $800+ for licenses. Can you give me some input on this? This is a little wordy, but this is the kind of thread I need to stay sane.



Hi tomynate,
I have been out of this forum for a while so I apologize for delayed response.
To be honest I haven't implemented either on of the shopping carts, however, I did look into both implementations. X-Cart utilizes smarty (http://smarty.php.net/) template engine. Where as zen-cart implemented its own custom template solution. I've used smarty template engine before, and it is a powerful way to separate html from php code without compromising performance.
They are both great shopping carts. As for SE, both shopping carts work fine.






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