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How Does A Se Access Dynamic Content?
Posted 28 March 2007 - 06:19 AM
Posted 28 March 2007 - 06:40 AM
SEs have robots that crawl the web viewing pages. It has nothing to do with users, browsers or databases. http://en.wikipedia....iki/Web_crawler is a good start. Have a read and come back and ask questions.
Edited by projectphp, 28 March 2007 - 11:00 AM.
Posted 28 March 2007 - 08:55 AM
Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:01 AM
Posted 28 March 2007 - 12:04 PM
A spider sees a htm page in a cirtain way. On page text and off page code and judges the page (including many other factors) accordinly.
As I see it, the question is...
What do the spiders see, if anything, for a dynamically generated page. Do they go rummiging around the database putting together the page parts that "people" see.
(Not highjacking, just my take on the question. I am interested in the answer)
Posted 28 March 2007 - 12:28 PM
I find it helpful in looking at a page the way a SE would. Enjoy!
Sorry! I forgot to point out that a SE does not see it the way a person sees it but at the same time it does. Meaning, it doesn't matter where the data on the page is coming from (DB or whatever). It sees the on page content but without all the pretty pictures and stuff.
Does this help?
Posted 28 March 2007 - 12:29 PM
Posted 28 March 2007 - 12:29 PM
They do it in the same way as a human visiting the website does.
They click on an item, the data is retrieve from the database and displayed to the screen using HTML code. It is the HTML code that displays the data to the screen that is used by the search engine.
Each dynamic display will generate a URL
Posted 28 March 2007 - 05:53 PM
They can't and they don't.
That content will not be seen by the search engine if it can only be found through a search query on a website.
The way to make that content accessible, is to create hard-coded links to that content. So, for instance, you could do the query on the website, and then add the resulting URL to your main navigation as a link.
For instance, say you did a search at your site for red lederhosen. The resulting page would be a nice one (presumably) with many types of red lederhosen and would make a great red lederhosen page for other people who may not have thought to search for it. So you could add that page (the URL) to your navigation, and now you basically have a static red lederhosen page on your dynamic site!
Does that help clarify things for you a bit?
It is a very hard topic to wrap your head around at first. And it appears that ProjectPHP (being a PHP specialist and all) gets it so well that he forgets that we mere mortals don't always understand how dynamically generated sites work!
Posted 30 March 2007 - 08:55 AM
i get exactly one result returned and it is my exact product. how does google "see" this product since there is no hard coded link to this product on my site? though, as i mentioned, there is a hard coded link to this particular section of the site, just not this specific product. i hope this makes a bit more sense.
Posted 30 March 2007 - 10:14 AM
Which probably means there's a link out there somewhere pointing to the page. It doesn't have to be a link on your own site. I could be a forum post or a link on any other site pointing to your search results page.
Posted 30 March 2007 - 12:24 PM
Posted 30 March 2007 - 04:32 PM
Not sure (like you ) why someone would attach that kind of importance to a 'biner but it must have happened or Google couldn't have found the link to it!
Do you have a lot of similar hardware items appearing in Google results?
Posted 31 March 2007 - 08:25 AM
1. We know that spiders don't submit forms. If they did everybody would see all sorts of incomplete orders in their database that were begin started by the spiders.
2. We know that spiders find pages by looking for links in the code of pages they grab from the Web. Technically they don't click and crawl the way we people do. They go to a single page, grab the html code, parse through it looking for links, then go back out to the new pages they found.
Since they can only find pages by finding links; and since you've confirmed that you don't link to the dynamic search page at all; the only thing left to consider is that someone else is in fact linking to that page from somewhere.
Posted 01 April 2007 - 11:27 PM
Stepheneighmey, There are many sources from which Google can find your pages. Most obvious ones are like those already been previously suggested, but one that has not been suggested is through the Google Toolbar. If you or your users have it installed on their browsers, chances are, Google found those "hidden" pages through that data goldmine.
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