14 replies to this topic

[aroncb]

I have put several sites live recently for clients and found that the google age delay seems to have gone.

The keywords aren't heavily trafficked but are certainly contended by reasonable quality websites. Within 2 weeks the sites have gone to top ten wihtout a significant inbound links campaign...

Anyone finding this?

[chrishirst]

Give it a few weeks they'll probably disappear

It's always been the case that a new site can appear to rank high for a few days/weeks initially

[Scottie]

If they continue to rank well, then maybe G did phase out the aging in their current update. You never know!

Many people are seeing a lot of flux in the indexes now, so I wouldn't count on anything being determined for sure until things settle. Enjoy your rankings while you have them!

[Jill]

If they continue to rank well, then maybe G did phase out the aging in their current update. You never know!

Wouldn't that be nice!

Anyone putting up new sites, please keep us informed on this issue.

Scottie, got any new ones coming out? I've got my SEMNE one, but it's not really optimized...can see if it's showing up though. I know it shows up for it's name, but that wouldn't have been affected by aging delay.

[Scottie]

Yes, I have some more recent ones and yes, there still seems to be a delay in effect. But that's just what I see- doesn't mean anything by itself!

Again, you can bypass the delay by getting some really great, trusted links (CNN is a nice one, etc.) but for most sites, they just aren't topical/different/newsworthy enough to get those highly trusted links.

Some people will tell you there isn't a delay at all and if you can't get a site ranking well fast, you just don't know what you are doing. However, if you don't have friends with influential sites, a pull in the media, or a truly amazing viral concept... you just have to wait it out and keep building the links you can get. Topical links in your industry are exactly what you want (and reasonable to expect) but they rarely have the "site making" ability to bypass the delay, unless they are hugely popular and well trusted.

Just my

[vj1]

Yes, I ve posted my site in Google, MSN and Yahoo, within next two weeks I could find it on all 3 search engines on the first page, however I can stil see my site on first page in Yahoo and MSN, but no where on Google, would you be able to let me know why?

[Randy]

Because Google has an aging delay.

[vj1]

Thanks Randy, thats what Ive heard,
Its really helped.

[jules2006]

I have had brand new sites which I have "Google sitemapped" and they appear in the index within a matter of days. I have also used Google Base and knocked out a few articles and added products also. Google 'have' to index these and as such index your site

[torka]

Yes, Google has always indexed sites fairly rapidly even in the days before Google Sitemaps.

The aging delay applies to ranking, though, not indexing.

--Torka

[ScottSalwolke]

Has anyone noticed if the aging delay applies to local search on Google. I primarily work with small businesses looking to rank high for local services like chiropractors, gift shops, etc. And I'm getting a number 1 ranking on many of these sites within a month of the site's domain being registered. Granted I know most of the competitors are utilizing SEO, but with my site it still took a year to appear on the rankings nationally. These sites are getting high rankings immediately and retaining them.

[Scottie]

If there are few competitors (as local search often is) you're simply at the end of a very short list, which looks like high rankings. I.E., If there are only 3 other sites competing for that specific phrase, you can get to #4 just by being indexed.

The local algo may have some different sorting criteria as well.

[ScottSalwolke]

Granted there isn't a lot of competition for some services. But for beauty salon in my location there are at least 20 salons that already have sites. Yet, the site I put up just three months ago has ranked number 1 for the last two months. And no other local salons rank in the top 30. The rest of the sites are not salons. I wondered if using Google Local speeded up the process of aging.

Edited by Copywriter39, 30 January 2007 - 09:37 PM.

[Bradley]

Interesting information. I've got a couple new local sites going live in short order. Have to keep an eye on this one..

[ScottSalwolke]

I think I just received further proof that submitting information to Google local listings impacts getting listed. I started putting up a site for company that hasn't had one previously. I registered the domain last week and started putting up the site. Two days ago I filled out the Google Local listing and had it verified through their postcard systems. This usually takes two weeks so I thought that would give me time to complete the site before we entered the pin number. The only people who know about the site are my client and I. Today I received a Google alert because my business links from that site. But I have no links going into the site nor does anyone else. And its ranked in the top 30 on Google for their type of business. Now this ranking might not last, but I think it is interesting.