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[cedano]

Hello Guru's.

I want to create a site for make money trough adsense and pay ads (local ads, hotels, restaurants,etc) but I'm not sure if is good idea to do that cause when i was searching for the number of search for the term at month (overture) I get this:

Keyword 1 - 89539 Search/month (google have "keyword" 78,000,000 of pages)
Keyword 2 - 6058
Keyword 3 - 3066

This term is considered Competitive, top rankings achievable only with highly optimized on-page content and substantial link strength.

My goal is to receive at least 25k visits at day in one year, but I'm going to start a new website (with 5k back links already), the site has no content now, but I have a copywriter that is going to start creating content next monday.

I know that now you are asking why I want to compete on that market... the answer is: I was checking those [2 sites] both sites have more than 25K visits at day with same terms, but none of them are optimized, so I want to get that market.

Those sites are focused on different keywords so i mean thats the reason why they receive all those visits, i want to know your opinion or advise to start my site with those keyword on mind, I don't want to have mistakes when I start so your advice could help me a lot.

What strategy should i apply or use to be the number one on that, i have a good copywriter and my site will be in two languages (after one year in 4 all depends of the income) also my site will add some useful things for people to come back, like photo albums, forums, maps, and so on.

Regars,

Edited by Jill, 29 November 2006 - 12:10 PM.

[Jill]

Same strategies you'd apply to any site.

Create a site that hasn't already been created, has info that no other site has and will fill an important niche.

Read the Tips for Newbies and get to work!

[Martin C]

Oh great! Another Made for Adsense website on its way.

[cedano]

Thanks Jill,

Hello Martin, martin is not a MFA site, but i need to get money from someplace until that space get sold by any one. For the topic that i going to work have good income with adsense.

The site will give information for free... to every body and i'm just going to put one adsense on that.

Thanks,

Edited by cedano, 29 November 2006 - 12:59 PM.

[mal4mac]

The sites you mention are certainly doing something right to get that amount of traffic! Do they have good content? Have they got links coming in from respected sites? that's what you need. So work hard, or get the copywriter to work hard .

[cedano]

The sites you mention are certainly doing something right to get that amount of traffic! Do they have good content? Have they got links coming in from respected sites? that's what you need. So work hard, or get the copywriter to work hard .

Really appreciate your comment, those sites don't have to much content, the #1 is something like a we directory for that country with some webpages, have a truck of backlinks (more than 20K) but just 10 from sites with page rank over 6.

The #2 have some pages with content, but not to much incoming links.

How much content need i to create to be competitive, more than 2 or 3 pages at day for over on year (480 pages at year per language)? *those pages will be in different languages.

Thanks,

[Martin C]

I'm sorry to be a downer on this cedano but the number of times I have come across people who tell me they are getting numbers like 25K a day I have gone on to find, when I have had access to their logs, that they have nothing of a sort.

I would be interested to know how you have validated/estimated their traffic?

A made for adsense site is generally a website that does contain 'information' usually by reprinting free articles. The articles are rarely chosen because they are interesting, informative, useful or well written but chosen simply because they are rich in search terms that will trigger adsense.

Who all these people are who go to these websites en-mass and then click on the Adsense adverts baffles me, surely it wouldn't be people in cahoots with the owner of the websites clicking on their own adverts?

[cedano]

I don't know how much money they make per day, but i now how much i can make at day with those visits, the site #1 (in January 2006) and that guy was receiving between 21k - 23k a day (unique visits).

About my site, I not going to use any free article, I'm going to create those articles optimized for visitors and for Sengines.

I don't want to baffles people to click on ads, but i want the visits....

Any advice is well receive.

Thanks,

[Martin C]

the site #1 (in January 2006)  and that guy was receiving between 21k - 23k a day (unique visits).

How are you verifying that this is the traffic they are getting?

[cedano]

How are you verifying that this is the traffic they are getting?

I ask for traffic report cause some client wanted to buy an ad space on that page, so they give me access to their webalizer report.

[Jill]

Ahh Webalizer. It's rarely accurate, and it was probably measuring "hits" not unique visitors.

Very few sites in the world get 25,000 unique visitors a day. Even this site only gets around 3000 - 4000 I believe.

[cedano]

Ahh Webalizer.  It's rarely accurate, and it was probably measuring "hits" not unique visitors.

Very few sites in the world get 25,000 unique visitors a day. Even this site only gets around 3000 - 4000 I believe.

Pageviews was around 90k no sure, but those numbers was unique visitors

[Scottie]

Reports can also be altered.

If the report you recieved was designed to encourage advertisers to sign on, it's in their best interest to make sure the numbers look good. They could be running fake traffic programs or simply editing the reports. Even if they aren't deliberately skewing the numbers, those aren't realistic figures.

I think if you pursue this project thinking you'll get 25,000 unique visitors a day, you are always going to be wondering where the traffic is, even when you reach #1.

[cedano]

I Again,

I has talk with the webguy of that site, and that guy says that yesterday they receive 26,322 Unique visits and 76,104 page views.

However I going to bet on that market, but I need your advice, opinion or whatever you have in mind to bet that MFA site.

Thanks,

Really appreciate your comment.

[Martin C]

measuring "hits" not unique visitors.

I agree that this is the most common mistake.

I don't know about anyone else but coming across people believing their website traffic is reaching untold numbers is almost a monthly occurrence.

The stats that people are provided with can be so misleading and like Scottie says are likely to be produced with the express purpose of attracting business.

It's a shame that often one of the first things you have to do when someone comes for help thinking that they have a popular website that is just not converting is to actually break the news to them that they don't even have a popular site.

Before believing any stats people need to look at how they are produced, what they are measuring and make sure they are excluding, or at least isolating, visits made by the search bots. Also look at length and depth of visit as well as return visits.

Of course the Webalizer report you are basing your assessment on may well be accurate and the site may be getting 25K visitors a day, but personally I would be very sceptical and as Jill points out even this website that is well established, full of great and original content, has lots of geniune high quality links, is free and has many regular visitors is nowhere near that figure.