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[gstark]

I have seen folks reference a monthly DB update at Google.

Is that a standard?

If so, or nearly so, is it predictable?

I have a raft of pages to change as a result of the Floridian revolution.

I would hate to miss a deadline and be out another month...
(I know - waiting is recommended, but this would have bearing).

Thanks!

[bumblingnewbee]

ok, god help me but I find this stuff just to interesting...

I'm not really sure how to answer your question except from my experience.

Google has arrived at my site after midnight on the 1st day of the last three months. Prior to that, I was not indexed by google. That took my links showing up. Now I am indexed with several pay sites at no cost to me and better yet, getting visitors and inquiries. Thanks to the quality links.

For me, I now consider the google bot clock work. I also know the google bot will be back another few times based on when I believe it gets to my "link" partner sites. Beings that google is the first visitor of the month, I can see exactly what is going on without any muddle in my logs from other visitors. Actually pretty nice....lol

So, just review your logs. I will bet their is a pattern for your site. BTW, whenever I make changes to my pages, I make it a point to resubmit that particular page to google for re-indexing.

[Scottie]

qstark, Google used to have a monthly update, referred to as the Google Dance.

They stopped doing a monthly update around June and went to constantly updating the results, with a minor update where backlinks were counted, it seems.

Some people think the "Dance" has returned because of this massive change that was just put into place- I think it's just more of the rolling updates myself.

The Googlebot hits sites at different times with different frequency. Just update your site when you have stuff to update- there isn't much timing about it.

[bumblingnewbee]

Hi ya scottie

Excellent tid bit about rolling. Interesting for certain. My logs get some what...knarled after the first day and only worse from their. Nice to know!

I definitely agree with the update whenever you're done Thanks for the tid bit!

[Scottie]

Hi bumblingnewbee! Welcome to the forum.

There are a lot of people out there who worry about timing things... IMO, that's just making more work for yourself. Tweak pages and let things stay for a month or so before doing anymore tweaking. Add new content on a regular basis.

Tracking spider visits isn't anything I see a lot of value in since you don't know when to expect the content the spider found to appear in the index. Sometimes, it's the next day, sometimes it is 3 weeks later.

[ranch]

I've noted that Google keeps visiting my site a least every week. Very nice, thank you G. Another site is visited maybe once a month. The former site has about 100 pages that are often updated, the latter has 5 pages that are not often updated and it is "only" a PR3 site. My guess is that Google bases it's visits on these factors, size, update frequency and link popularity. And surely a lot of other things.

Log-files are a great way to determine when G visited your site. Just look for googlebot in the user-agent field and you can see exactly what page was spidered and when.

And by the way I never submitted a site or a page to Google. I don't think it'll make a difference.

[gstark]

Hmmm... I am aware of the frequency of spidering but I know that the DB is not updated every time a spider comes through.

I doubt that there is a correlation between the two. Certainly I cannot see changes show up just because they were spidered.

I suspect spidering just sieves raw data into the Google hopper.

I am guessing that periodically the hopper is crunched and a new index/cache is created.

[BobetteKyle]

Certainly I cannot see changes show up just because they were spidered.
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I am guessing that periodically the hopper is crunched and a new index/cache is created.

I have been observing the updates on a couple of my important key phrases for a few weeks and have noticed a couple of things...

- It looks like top pages are being updated every two or three days in the database (at least for the phrases I've been monitoring) - if it's been about two days or less since a particular entry has been updated, the date of update shows on the same line with the URL, file size, "cached", and "similar pages" notations.

You can watch it happen. As I write this, November 30 was the last update so no dates are showing in the listings. If everything goes as it has recently, descriptions will change in the next day or so and the "updated Dec. x" notation will appear (My face will be bright red if it doesn't happen this time! )

- I also have seen no correlation between ranking updates in the G database and page content updates in their same database. There must be some sort of cause and effect relationship, but it hasn't been apparent to me.