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[domokun]

howdy folks,
ive been kicking this idea around for a while and so i thought i should finally release it and see what people think.
oh, before we start, i think i should tell you that is a good idea, but it does bend many ethics!

ok, the idea is ..

you have a popular site called www.whoischris.com. it provides information about people called chris and is hugely popular and commercial. you dont want to devalue the appearance of your commercial site by adding a link list so instead you do this ...

set-up another domain called www.chriswho.com. add some cracking articles and unique info to this site (perhaps sourced from the whoischris domain) and set up a link list. build links with all sites. once you have a bounty of links pointing to this site, take it down and replace it with a permanent redirect to your original domain.

in theory, most of you link partners would not notice this sudden switch and so your original domain would inherit a load of links with subsequent PR.



disclaimer: this practice is really unethical and so isnt a serious idea, but a fun idea that i would like to hear your thoughts on none-the-less

[SearchRank]

So are saying that you set up a separate domain with a links page and people link to it and the page links to them, then you take it down, set up 301 so backlinks from them transfer to your main site but now the people linking to you have no link pointing back to them?

If that be the case, yes it is unethical and dishonest because you are reneging on your end of the bargain and it would be short term because eventually those people would discover that you are no longer linking to them and remove the link they have pointing to you.

Therefore I think it would be a pointless tactic and if it would benefit you, it would be short term. Link building should be for long term goals and should be done in a natural way. Link building in a unnatural way such as buying links from high PR pages, setting up link pages and the like is what has caused Google to add the latest changes that everyone is in an uproar about IMO.

[domokun]

well said!



thing is though, im not so convinced that these link lists (for example) would notice that your link no longer points back to them.

but hey, it was just a silly idea!


off topic:
btw what happend to the little circle (possibly a grid) that used to be in the background of your avatar photo?

[t49]

off topic:
btw what happend to the little circle (possibly a grid) that used to be in the background of your avatar photo?

It was a shuffleboard discus,but some of us 'saw' a monkey tail.
see this thread:
http://www.highranki...wtopic=2167&hl=

[OldWelshGuy]

Chris take you little Japanese weetabix sock puppet out of here you spam inventing person you

[SearchRank]

off topic:
btw what happend to the little circle (possibly a grid) that used to be in the background of your avatar photo?

It was a shuffleboard disk and everyone though I had a tail when I was a boy so I "cut it off."

I don't want to be freakin' people out. Google does a good enough job on their own doing that to people!

[mcanerin]

That's actually a tactic some people use. They buy domains that are for sale and still have a lot of links pointing to them. They 301 this domain.

As searchrank points out, it's not kosher. For one thing, those links were put there because the site was presumably on-topic. Now it's probably not.

Sure it would help for a while, but I do remember someone telling me that at least one major SE looked at ownership changes (from whois) when looking at 301's and forwards. So it may not work anymore. I believe it was put into place to prevent new owners getting banned because the previous owner of the domain was a spammer, but of course it would prevent this tactic, as well.

I'm not certain, though. I'm working on second hand info and I can't even remember the source.

Ian

[Scottie]

And not very nice to boot.

[Jill]

Chris, your idea would definitely work if you could really build up a lot of links to it. It would take a long time, but might certainly be worth it.

It would only work with Google, however, as Inktomi for one, doesn't seem to understand what "permanently moved" means.

I agree that it would be somewhat suspect in terms of ethics, but that's not what you were asking.

If the original site was on the same topic and owned by the same person, the links/PR would transfer, at least as Google currently works.

Jill

[Scottie]

The issue in my mind is that you have agreed to swap links with other sites and then you are in effect, removing the link without telling the other site.

It would work just as well to build all the great and wonderful content on your own site and ask those relevant sites to link to it. Period. Without offering a swap in exchange, but because the info would be useful to their visitors.

Then you don't have to be sneaky ... <_<

I'm not saying that because of "ethical" reasons as much as for business- sneaky things nearly always will come around to bite you eventually.

[Jill]

Yes, it defintely makes more sense just to have all the good content on the original site to begin with. Would save a whole lot of time and trouble, and give you the same exact results in the end.

Jill

[SearchRank]

thing is though, im not so convinced that these link lists (for example) would notice that your link no longer points back to them.

I would if I was trading links with people (not that I do that with my own sites). If I was in the business of trading links with people, you better believe I am going to check periodically to see if they are still there.

What I don't care about is when people spam me saying, "we added your link, now add ours." I don't check to see if they did indeed add my link, I don't add theirs and even if they did add mine, I wouldn't care.

[domokun]

thankyou all for you honest responses. i dont intend to actually implement this idea, i was just wondering if it was possible.

That's actually a tactic some people use

wouldnt you know, some spammer beat me to the idea!
one day ill become an evil genius, until then ill just stick to more ethical seo practices!

everyone though I had a tail when I was a boy

at first i too thought it was a tail, but then i settled for something more mundane!

Japanese weetabix sock puppet

you cheeky begger! its a domokun ... and he bites!



thanks again