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[Directory_SEO]

I know this question may sound silly, but still i need help here:

If I have a page that sells bedroom furniture, and I used the page title: "bedroom furniture, contemporary bedroom furniture, discount bedroom furniture, traditional bedroom furniture"

How bad is this title? I feel I used the word "bedroom furniture" too many times, but my page really contains all types of bedroom furniture, so If i don't want to be left out when people search "discount bedroom furniture" or "contemporary bedroom furniture"..... In this case, what should I do? Is there any chance that this "keyword rich" title sounds ok to search engines? thanks in advance

[sweepthelegnate]

Does that one page literally have all those types of furniture on it??? If it does that's probably poor design. how about targeting each of those phrases with their own page?

[amabaie]

Two things. If this is your home page, I would probably use the title:
"bedroom furniture - contemporary, discount, traditional"

But as Nathan says, each type of furniture should have its own page. For instance:
"contemporary bedroom furniture - beds, night tables, dressers"

My two cents.

[Jill]

How bad is this title? I feel I used the word "bedroom furniture" too many times, but my page really contains all types of bedroom furniture, so If i don't want to be left out when people search "discount bedroom furniture" or "contemporary bedroom furniture".

It's bad. Very bad and could do more harm then good.

I don't think you mean that your "page" is about those things, but your "site" is, no?

I believe we talked about this in another thread with you. You want to use your general phrases on the home page and top level category pages and then drill down from there into more specific pages.

You most definitley do not want to, nor should you have to try to be everything with your home page. You have a whole site to optimize, don't you?

[Mong]

And you also have to remember that max length se care is not more than 55 characters.

[chrishirst]

No it isn't. Have your title as long or as short as you wish.
use around 6 to 10 words. <added> generally </added>

less than 6 and you are probably not making best use of the tag.

[Mong]

No it isn't. Have your title as long or as short as you wish.
use around 6 to 10 words.

less than 6 and you are probably not making best use of the tag.

Hmmm sorry if i am wrong
www.seoconsultants.com/meta-tags/title-element.asp and many other places.
and
www.w3.org/QA/Tips/good-titles

sorry its 64 chars.

[chrishirst]

'fraid you are misunderstanding

It is only the display of the title that is truncated at around 64 characters by the SEs.

[Directory_SEO]

Does that one page literally have all those types of furniture on it???  If it does that's probably poor design.  how about targeting each of those phrases with their own page?

this page has navigations that direct visitor to different sections, such as contemporary bedroom furniture, traditioanl bedroom furniture. Seeing all the responds here, I believe that title is really bad and I should target these different keywords in each specific page.

another point here, i heared search engines will ignore word like "a" "at" "in" "from", so if I create my title "bedroom furniture at XXX(company name)" then search engine may read my title as "bedroom furniture XXX", then it will not make any sense. so should I avoid using these small words like that?

[qwerty]

Stop words aren't really ignored. They're just so common that they're not used to contribute to ranking much (if at all). But a title containing "bedroom furniture at xxx" will help more in a search for "bedroom furniture at xxx" than a title containing "bedroom furniture xxx".

The "at" is certainly not going to hurt you.

[chrishirst]

The SEs have what are known as "stop" words that are essentially ignored when building the document word index, but these words may be taken into account on searches.

More importantly you should build your title for users and it should be able to make sense when read as the SERP title

[ewc21]

I'd take amabaie's word on that example.