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[robmarketshare]

I came across a website with a strange high PR7. (not in my sig.), and on a lot of Datacenters too!
Search results for their keywords are bad. ( even in title)
Other search engines only report 6-30 backlinks. ( which looks more realistic)
When checking the the reported 2300 backlinks in Google i could not find one with a backlink to the website in question.

To me this shows that there is a strong relation between the shown PR and shown backlinks, but...... there is absolutly no relation between de the shown PR and the actual value Google gives to a site when it comes to the SERPS.
( But we all knew that, didn't we)

Anyone else noticed such a strange PR7 website ?
Or is it just a stand-alone glitch from Google

[I've edited the site address out of the signature since we don't like outing specific sites. You can send it via PM to anyone who is interested. ~Randy]{ Geeh, you are powerful , could also have asked me to do so ~Rob}

Edited by robmarketshare, 29 January 2006 - 02:49 PM.

[Randy]

I haven't dug into it at all, but from a very quick look it appears to be an example of run-of-the-mill cloaking/pagejacking to me. The reason you won't see it on the other engines is that they're probably specifically targeting Google.

If you feel like reporting it to Google use the canonicalpage instructions given for Google in our [url=http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19320]Search Engine Contact List[/url].

[robmarketshare]

If thats the case, the website owners probably even don't know it.
Could a "SEO" company have done this without them knowing ?

[Randy]

Sure. Or it could have happened completely by mistake.

Or they could have signed up with one of those link building services out there that provide these shady types of link manipulation strategies.

[robmarketshare]

Randy, you really assume it is something done on the site's side, rather then a mistake from Google ?

Would there be traces to be found on what has been done ?
(just want to make sure before I contact the siteowner to help rectify)

Anyone wanting to have a closer look ; PM me for the URL

[Randy]

Let's just say that I'm pretty familiar with some of the sites that they're showing links from. And I know those sites I'm familiar with aren't doing anything.

Which leads me to believe that it's either something the site has done themselves or something someone has done on their behalf, with or without their knowledge.

I'll try to dig into it further later in the day or next week if I can find a couple of hours. However in my first look it appeared they were not just relying on the Googlebot user-agent, but also checking against the IP number of the bot. This sort of situation makes it a lot easier for someone from inside Google to see than it is for someone who is outside of Google.

[robmarketshare]

If something's wrong, help would be great !

However in my first look it appeared they were not just relying on the Googlebot user-agent, but also checking against the IP number of the bot.  This sort of situation makes it a lot easier for someone from inside Google to see than it is for someone who is outside of Google.

You are sure we are still talking about the same URL???

[Randy]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same site. The .nl site from your sig earlier right?

A question...

Do you have access to the raw files on the site? Reviewing them would be the easiest way to spot what's happening and get it corrected. Though we'll want to take it to PM/Email so that their info isn't being splashed about here on the open forums.

[Leann_Pass]

When I check it on a link pop tool, it shows backlinks from G at 2300 and Y at 8. However, when I check G itself I see 0 backlinks, checking Y I see the same 8 as the link pop tool.

I see PR7 on the main page and all the internal pages at a PR0.

Very curious.

[robmarketshare]

When I checked in Google I got over 250 backlinks, all from high PR sites like the BBC in several languages.

Curious indeed!

[Leann_Pass]

We must be looking at different datacenters? I see no backlinks, 25 indexed pages - all PR0 except the front page.

When I checked the Yahoo links (they are showing 7 sites) I see 1-PR5 with tons of links, 1-PR2, 2-PR1, the rest PR0. Sure doesn't add up.

[robmarketshare]

those figures from google are not relative to reality

But what is going on?

I know Google usually shows less then it knows, but more...

suggestions are welcome

i'll keep digging

[robmarketshare]

I stumbled upon another question about an other odd PR7 website in Matt Cs Blog. Also 2300 reported backlinks, and guess what ......
those are exactly the same backlinks as in my sample site.
It'is in http://www.mattcutts.../blog/bigdaddy/ 29th Januari.

[Randy]

A bit of a stab in the dark, but it sure looks like both sites are part of the same linking network Rob.

One thing I did just notice... If I look at the site mentioned in the post on Matt's blog or in the one you were looking at in this thread via the 64.233.179.104 IP number, neither shows any link: results. Not for the www version or the non-www version of either of the domains.

I'm not sure if this observation means anything or not though.

[robmarketshare]

The site owner of the .nl site assured me they never ever did something with SEO or link buying.
Their renewed site is on air since mid december 2005.

(64.233.179.104, the other BigDaddy centre does show the 2300 links)

Odd !
Anyone else came across a magic PR7 2300 links site?