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[compar]

And vijay! I have posted my buns off in this thread!! LOL

I hope that isn't too painful Leann

Edited by compar, 23 November 2003 - 01:03 PM.

[navigator]

Here's a goodie. My site www.navigatortravel.co.uk had no Google page ranking until very recently, and suddenly we are ranked 6/10 but we've disappeared from the rankings at about the same time (keyword travel insurance).
I don't mind accepting that Googles going through an odd phase and I need to give it a few days/weeks or whatever, but it all seems a bit illogical. I was over the moon when I saw we has got a page rank, but now we've disappeared!
Can anyone make any sense of this please. I can put up with just about anything, as long as I understand why!

[powerofeyes]

Hello Pass,
Yes you are right. There is lot of different results in 2 different searches. But this can also be a natural filter, may be the new algo might look directories more relevant than the sites which used to list there. We have to do lot of analysis like their backlinks some sites have "roofing equipments" as their anchor text back links, some sites have that keyword phrases repeated on their pages. So why cant we think in this way, why do we have to think they are only targetting "commercial sites".
We can only get to a conclusion if we see in different angles. We cannot get to any blind conclusion just because they are commercial sites.
See this is not dmoz.org where every site is reviewed by an editor. This is an automated robot so there should be an automated filter involved. I wont deny nor support that they are targetting commercial sites before doing a bit more research on it,
Some results looks like that and some looks very different that is what I mean to say, So let us not get to any conclusion before seeing lots of more examples,
VIJAY.

[Leann_Pass]

I wont deny nor support that they are targetting commercial sites before doing a bit more research on it,
Some results looks like that and some looks very different that is what I mean to say, So let us not get to any conclusion before seeing lots of more examples,

That is what we are doing, we are looking at different angles. I, like many others, have been researching this from many different angles. :learn:

It's Learn or Fail vijay....that's the bottom line. So to keep researching, as I am sure you are, is a very good thing.

Of course, to keep in mind that this thing is not over is very important. I wouldn't ACT on anything one way or another.

[Leann_Pass]

one two three four -- not available
one two three position #13
two three four -- not available
two three -- not available
one three four -- #14

Bob, Have you by any chance checked to see if they are considered hot property? I would love to know.
(and yes that hurt me buns!!!!!)

[compar]

Of course, to keep in mind that this thing is not over is very important. I wouldn't ACT on anything one way or another.

Many of us have been saying the same thing. But I guess the next question is how will we know or judge when it is over. I frankly have not seen much difference in my rankings for three or four days now.

I don't like the results but they look pretty stable.

[Leann_Pass]

how will we know or judge when it is over.

I dunno. I do know that as of now, back links are still changing back and forth and the number of sites in the results are still changing in some instances.

[powerofeyes]

Hello Leann,
Here you go. Check this result with -googlegoo and in the normal way,

online website builder -googlegoo

online website builder

Both look same so what is that -googlegoo doing I cant understand. Over optimization and many many factors SEOs do on a site are taken into consideration in this update plus some other commercial factors that Google is involved,

[compar]

one two three four -- not available
one two three position #13
two three four -- not available
two three -- not available
one three four -- #14

Bob, Have you by any chance checked to see if they are considered hot property? I would love to know.

Sorry, I must have missed the discussion on "hot properties". How would I check?

But without understanding the hot property concept. It is hard for me to see how some combinations and permutations of the same 4 words could be hot properties and others not?

For instance you might speculate that word 'four" is a hot property. That would explain what happened to:
one two three four -- not available
two three four -- not available

But then how would you explain:
one three four -- #14 ????

[compar]

Both look same so what is that -googlegoo doing I cant understand.

Vijay,

They don't both look the same. Similar but not the same.

[Leann_Pass]

online website builder is NOT hot property. This is the point entirely.
Both ways it shows the same number of results (exactly) and virtually the same in the top 10. It has NOT incorporated PRIMARILY noncommercial sites.

[Leann_Pass]

Bob, just go back a page or two here and you will see what I am talking about.

[compar]

Bob, just go back a page or two here and you will see what I am talking about.

My God you are right. If I search on 'one two three four -googlegoo' the site is ranked at #4 which was it's original ranking.

Now tell me what exactly this means and tell me how you discovered "googlegoo" and what is it's function in a search term?

[powerofeyes]

Ok leann,
What do you mean by "hot property" because I see lots and lots of results which look similiar in top 10 when i use both type of queries what do you mean by "hot property". How will judge a phrase that it is "hot property"

[Leann_Pass]

My God you are right.

Oh My God, I can't believe I have finally been right about something! LOL.