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Posted 17 November 2003 - 12:44 AM
Well, I disagree about a page linking to itself being a usability issue. If the person is confused enough to click the link to the very page they are on in the primary navigation, it should still work for them. It refreshes the page and they see they are still there.
This was precisely Ron's point (in the cre8 thread); if they're on the home page and clicking on the home page link, they're already confused, so there's no point in removing the link and presenting them with what would appear, at that point, to be a non-working menu. Ah, I see you're already here, Ron. So I'll just say this: leaving the link allows them to (i) try to go where they want to go and, when they discover they're on the same page, that fact (ii) verifies it for them. (I see that you said, that, too.)
I dunno. I've for some time been at that point in my career where I'm re-examining whatever might have been accepted earlier as gospel. Yes, I learned plenty early on from folks like Dr. Nielsen and I appreciate it. But on re-examination, some of the stuff was right; some was simply not. If we were to follow everything JN said, all navbars would be yellow and all link colors would be the default. The illogic there is that it assumes that truly newbie surfers are used to the default colors (this is not 1996, you know), and that browser manufacturers knew best. Logic dictates otherwise.
I think there's a problem with swallowing datums whole without really examining them. Why base your adjudications on something that may not be true?
Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:56 AM
Usability advice is best when taken into consideration rather than blindly implemented or dismissed. And to give Kim credit, that's what she says in the introduction to her new e-book (Please Ring Bell For Service, advertised in Jill's newsletter, and I'm working on a press release for it, so I'm not totally uninvolved, full disclosure)-- she says that not every item in the checklist will be right for your site, but you need to consider each one and determine for yourself whether it's right before either implementing or dismissing it. Which I thought was the most interesting thing about the whole checklist, and why I like her usability style-- she's not like Neilsen saying You Must Do This Or You Suck, she's just saying you ought to give a good hard think to each of these considerations to really understand what you're asking your users to do.
It's like grammar. I violate grammar rules all the time, but at least I know them to begin with, and generally violate them when doing so results in a greater effect than obeying them would. You don't have to agree with every tenet of the usability platform, but the fact that you've thought of it means that your violations of it are considered and are probably somehow mitigated.
Which is a darn sight better than simply not having thought about it, which is a central feature in many poorly-designed sites.
Posted 18 November 2003 - 04:49 AM
[Removed quote of entire previous post.]
Edited by Jill, 18 November 2003 - 08:34 AM.
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