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[brianzajac]

Ok, I'm sure we've been hearing many stories lately about the google dance. Last week I've noticed that my site, EyeMagination has gone from a PR of 3 to 4. I've also been doing many updates to the site. The question is, if I see a PR jump, did google dance with me? And, if so, are they giving any conditions when they might do it next? I know there are tools to check, but are there any mailing lists that can say "yep, Google is doing it's thing, so watch out!".

Also, on a totally separate subject, I've subscribed to a link listing system. Now, before you all chastise me, they are pretty descriminitive on the subject material and how the site functions. Do you think I have just as much chance with Google as I would finding these links on my own?

Lastly, I've done some linking on my own regarding niche markets for artists and vacation rentals. However, I've manually done those on my own. Do you think I might have higher relevancy for doing this than finding a linking subscriber?

Edited by Jill, 05 November 2003 - 02:47 PM.

[awall19]

Usually things which are automated have low quality...thats just the nature of the beast.

They are easy to manipulate. They may be great until one person selling

paxil prozac viagra debt relief casion porn

come in and wipes it out. then others see what he did, follow his links and abuse it until it is worthless


As far as a google dance the official term is no longer used. they have slid their method of updating to a rolling update. there is no telling when exactly the next one will be. if your pagerank changed then obviously on at least 1 server there have been changes made

[brianzajac]

Ok, thanks for the info! One more question, though...relevancy of the links. Let's say I'm a web designer and I market it that way. Obviously "paxil prozac viagra debt relief casion porn" will get me nothing and hurt my linking strategy. But, what if others near my business field (hosting, programmers, SEO, ect...) want to advertise with me? Does Google know these are closely related to me? Or will they discard the link? Or will the link hurt me? Thanks...

[OldWelshGuy]

Hi Brian, here is a quote from Googles Terms and Conditions.

QUOTE
Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.

What they are saying is if you get involved with a website who for any reason is being penalised, then there is a chance that just as a link from a well respected site will help you, a link from a penalised site can harm you, although the jury is still out on this one.

So whilst it may be a good links page now, it could be a bad links page in the future and this could affect your PR.

With regard incoming links, make the text in the link your keyword as this will rate higher as a link I am not sure what you mean 'advertise with you' are you talking about outgoing links TO their sites?

[brianzajac]

Thanks OldWelshGuy...but I think the difference in mind is that it is humanly controlled and moderated so they don't accept those bad sites. I'm just trying to figure out what could be considered "bad" in the long run. For example, if I'm a designer, can I link exchange with programmers. We both have a common market, the internet. But, we do completely different jobs.

Also, here's the code I'm using to link exchange with:

Design and Internet Marketing:
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.eyemagina...nation</strong>
- Vacation Rental Website Design and Internet Marketing for Your Small
Business</a>

Vacation Rentals:
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.eyemagina...eMagination</a>
- Vacation Rental Website Design and Internet Marketing for Your Small Business

Artists:
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.eyemagina...eMagination</a>
- Artist Website Design, Art Library Development, and Internet Marketing.


Are these good to go by?


P.S. Sorry, when I said 'advertise with you', I meant "link exchange".

[awall19]

People are probably no going to evaluate individual links for you - thats what many people here get paid for.

its prettymuch self evident when you are in bad communities. if you are linking just for the sake of search engines you may be getting into a bad community

you can link to any quality resource and it will not hurt you - no matter weather it is a related topic or not

it hurts you when you link into bad sites. if a bad site links to you it does not hurt you since you cant control who links in.

a good way to tell what google specifically thinks of a site is by using the google toolbar. keep in mind that many sites do look good in the short term to only later be penalized

if it seems too good to be true ... it probably is

if someone is giving away peanut butter, you have to at least ask why