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Posted 10 November 2005 - 07:03 PM
Thank you for your reply. I apologize that this issue has caused so much frustration and I do understand your concern. Please allow me to try and explain this further.
All of our search partners say 'Sponsored Links' when showing AdWords ads. Since some of our AdSense for domains partners are part of our search network and your campaigns are only opted in to search, when your ads are displayed on these search AdSense for domain partners, it will say 'Sponsored Links' and not 'Ads by Goooooogle.'
Your other example makes sense as well, since your ads are only opted in to search, they are showing on our search network partner's domains and are going through google.com and not through googlesyndication.com. Only ads that are displayed on our content network, go through googlesyndication.com.
At this time, the only way to opt out of these search AdSense for domains partners is to opt out of the search network. I understand that this is not the perfect solution because opting out of the search network will only leave your ads to appear on Google and its properties. I hope this explanation was helpful. Please let me know if you have any other questions.
The Google AdWords Team
Needless to say, I'm NOT happy
Posted 11 November 2005 - 04:04 AM
I am not sure that I am following this - I thought we had two options with Google - Search or Content networks - you could do one or the other or both...
If one opts out of the search network I didn't realize that ads would still show on Google and its properties. Hmmm... this will become more and more relevant if Google continues to blur the line between a search network, a partner and a content network.
I have had this problem with Overture - using only the search network, not the content network ( or partners) our ads still showed up on highly irrelevant pages and received clicks even though our ad would make it obvious that it was not what the person viewing that site was looking for.
It was such a waste of money that I stopped the campaign on Overture all together after exchanging email with them and they were not able to stop this.
I would like to point out an example of a site that looks like a real site but shows Overture ads for content: betsports.com/ (I have no affiliate whatsoever to this link). Go to their Parent company: digimedia.com and you will see a whole bunch of other sites that work the same way.
In certain industries you come across a lot of domain sponsored landing pages or whatever they are called. One method to land on these pages is spyware - if a users computer contains spyware, that spyware can hijack their search engine searches and instead of taking them to the Google results page, they go to a targeted landing page which contains AdSense or Overture ads - the user is most frequently not aware that this has happened - popups, spyware, hijacking...not terms they are familiar with ;-)
I think that the SE have an obligation to advertisers (us) to be very clear on where our ads may be shown...
Edited by Jill, 11 November 2005 - 09:25 AM.
Posted 11 November 2005 - 04:11 AM
Posted 11 November 2005 - 05:50 AM
IMO this is a big mistake on Google's part. This is probably newsworthy.
In my understanding, the Search Network is keyword-triggered and the Content Network is content-or-context-triggered. I wonder if there are any other examples of Adwords that are delivered under the Search Network without the explicit use of a keyword search. One impact of this is that you will be seeing apparent searches for keywords in your Adwords account, when no actual searches for those keywords took place.
Also, as I understand it, Smart Pricing only applies to the Content Network - so you are paying full price for clicks on the Adsense for Domains program since that is on the Search Network. Not only are they bad clicks, they're full price bad clicks.
The CTR that is reported for each keyword in your Adwords account is the CTR from Google and the Search Network (if enabled) combined. However, the CTR that is used to determine your Ad Rank is based only on impressions from Google Search.
Posted 11 November 2005 - 06:47 AM
Posted 11 November 2005 - 07:42 AM
To me this would be the same thing as someone who is partaking in Domain Squatting and/or purchasing expired domains and slapping up Adsense, but with no [url=http://searchengineland.com/070531-115312.php]Real[i][/i] Content[/url]. Last I looked this sort of thing was expressly forbidden by the Adsense rules of the road.
C'mon Google! What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you can do it yourself simply because you happen to own the domain, then everybody else should be able to do the same thing for any domain they own, regardles of whether there is content on the page or not! Quit breaking your own rules.
Posted 11 November 2005 - 09:28 AM
Good! Maybe a little press from Danny will get them to change/fix this.
Posted 11 November 2005 - 09:31 AM
The fact that you are getting so much traffic that doesn't convert via this method is also very suspicious. How does "qualified traffic" in large quantities end up on parked domains? Are these fake sites, excuse me, parked domains showing up in Google search results in order to drive traffic through paid ads?
Posted 11 November 2005 - 09:32 AM
Posted 11 November 2005 - 06:25 PM
BTW - great photo Scottie!
Posted 27 November 2005 - 02:14 PM
You apparently can block these individually by adding the URL into your site filter list for each campaign in AdWords. I have heard from some advertisers that say AdSense for Domains converts well, but just from looking at those AdSense for Domains pages, I am a bit skeptical!
The other big culprit I hear of with AdSense for Domains is referrals coming from apps5.oingo.com.
GoDaddy also recently started using AdSense for Domains on all their parked domains, instead of their former GoDaddy products landing page, and I have been hearing grumbles from advertisers about that one as well.
Posted 20 December 2005 - 06:01 PM
Yes, I've done this now, but it could've been made a clearer option by Google! Danny has raised this issue in his blog today
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