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[Irony]

Can anybody provide reliable information on what counts as a Google's backwards link?

What Google counts as a backlink and what it shows as a backlink are very different things.

It only shows a small part of what it knows about. Regardless of PR or anything. If the page that contains your link has been indexed and cached, that's all you need. Sooner or later, all those links will count and add to your site's aithority and rankings.

[rkeefer]

Hey everyone, I have gotten some great info and resources from here so far. I have been using posttrades.com's tool to track some info on Google and Yahoo! stuff, but like a lot of the Google info, it seems their Internal and External links are off. It shows both as 0. Is there a better gauge of internal and external links for Google?

[Randy]

There is really no external tool for getting a reliable backlink count on Google.

The internal side of things only they know. And they're not talking.

[TUG]

Google
Link: sitename.com --> not to accurate
allintext:sitename.com
"sitename.com" -site:www.sitename.com --> this is very interesting

I agree. I get much better results by typing in "sitename.com" and searching in Google. The link: is not accurately showing my back-links. I'll have to try the allintext: search as well.

Does anyone agree that Google's link:domain.com search only shows sites with a PR >=4? I saw someone post that, but it is the first I've heard of such a thing. I know that Google used to show WAY more links to my site using that modifier, then suddenly they disappeared, yet my PR did not change (still 4/10).

[Connie]

Google only shows a sample of links with the link command. The links they show have nothing to do with PR and the links Google shows has nothing to do with how many links they know about.

[Jill]

Does anyone agree that Google's link:domain.com search only shows sites with a PR >=4? I saw someone post that, but it is the first I've heard of such a thing

No, that's incorrect. At one time it was mostly true, but it hasn't been for quite some time now.

[LibbyLu]

They will include listings in directories, links in a forum, not just a traditional link.

[OldWelshGuy]

Google counts ALL links, good and bad that it can spider. As irony said though, they choose to show only a selection. If the anchor page is cached, and your link shows in the source of the cached page, then it is a link.

[Darky]

When I put my site into MarketLeap I get 850 links - not bad for a two week old site

When a friend did, he got 47 links (he did put the correct URL in )

I'm interested to know WHY it's so different (>10 times!) and what other people get if they put [my site] into the above link checker

Thanks

Chris Dark

[Jill]

All MarketLeap does is the backlink command at the various engines. The different engines have different databases, so you're probably just seeing the different results from there.

You don't need a tool to check, just go to the engines themselves and type the specific commands and see if you get the same results that way.

[BraveNataly]

Hi everybody!
I've just started promoting my site. My first step - registration in catalogues. The matter is the Google and Yahoo! are displaying different links to my site. I understand from other topics that Google does not show all the links. My question is: what in the best way to control who links to my site (all the links)? Are there any special tools for this purpose?

I am from Moscow so I appologise for my not so good English.
Thanks in advance for attention.

Nataly

Edited by torka, 29 December 2004 - 01:52 AM.

[Connie]

Hi BraveNataly and welcome

I don't think your can control links to your site. I guess you are referring to anchor text with directories you have submitted to. Some directories will let you control anchor text and others wont.

Maybe I don't understand your question.

[torka]

Welcome, Nataly!

Sorry, but I had to edit your post to remove the live links, as per our [url=http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?act=boardrules]Forum Rules[/url]. You can add a signature through your profile if you'd like to include a link to your site.

If you're checking your backlinks in Google and Yahoo, they're going to show different numbers of links and different sites linking. This is primarily because Google's "link:" command doesn't show all the incoming links they're aware of. For a long time now, that command has been "broken". It only shows a selection of the total number of links you have. So far, nobody's been able to figure out the criteria Google uses to determine what links to display, and it appears that the criteria change from time to time anyway.

There are a number of threads here discussing various alternatives for link-checking. We also have various threads discussing different link-building alternatives. Jill has a collection of articles pinned at the top of the [url=http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?showforum=10]link building forum[/url] that may contain some of the answers you're looking for.

Hope this helps!

--Torka

[macroprez]

I have been reading a number of archived articles on this site regarding linking popularity and have been doing some research on the internet. Based on this effort, I have these questions:

First, when checking back links in Google, why do I get a different answer when I use "link:www.yourname.com" (16 links for my URL) vs. "link: http://www.yourname.com" (111 links)?

Second, what types of links are you actually checking with this method? I ask this because I do not see many links from my distributors or sales reps who all have a link somewhere in their site back to my home page.

Third, when setting up external links, is it critical that these links be to the first level, or home page, and if not, how many levels down do you think is too far to have a positive impact on rankings?

Finally, in an older article, I believe Jill talked about tweaking one of her pages to add some internal links back to her home page. Did I remember this correctly, and does it have some impact on page rankings (I do know external links are better)?

[powerofeyes]

First, when checking back links in Google, why do I get a different answer when I use "link:www.yourname.com" (16 links for my URL) vs. "link: http://www.yourname.com" (111 links)?

link:www.yoursite is the correct syntax, link: www.anysit will show pages with the URL and the word link anywhere on the page or link,

Second, what types of links are you actually checking with this method? I ask this because I do not see many links from my distributors or sales reps who all have a link somewhere in their site back to my home page.

This command is completely useless these days when it comes to google, they show only a small percentage of links a site posesses, For some sites we monitor they show only 10% of the links they know of, Forget that command, check yahoo, yahoo shows most of the links they know of pointing to your site,

Third, when setting up external links, is it critical that these links be to the first level, or home page, and if not, how many levels down do you think is too far to have a positive impact on rankings?

What type of external links you are talking about, you mean links to other sites, there are no proven evidence outbound links effect rankings, it doesnt matter which page level the link is, it plays minimum value in SE ranking algos, If you mean anything else post it here ill try to answer it,

Finally, in an older article, I believe Jill talked about tweaking one of her pages to add some internal links back to her home page. Did I remember this correctly, and does it have some impact on page rankings (I do know external links are better)?

Internal anchor text links play a vital role in google ranking these days, those links gives complete power to the page they are voting inside your site, it is worth optimizing your internal anchor text to the targeted internal page,