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Notes On October 2005 Google Update
Posted 21 October 2005 - 09:48 AM
I have always been a white hat person in regards to SEO. I wasn't talking about blatant cheating such as hidden text or cloaking etc, but rather sites that just had massive amounts of backlinks.
And as far as cheating, using automatic linking software is a no no for sure. Getting what some may determine as irrelevant links is a different story. Determining relevancy is very difficult and has been discussed in other threads. We've discussed that most people travel , most people buy toys for their kids etc etc. As long as one does not use automatic linking software that leaves a footprint, I don't think anyone is going to get delisted for having thousands of irrelevant or an abundance of reciprocal links. Those links might not be counted eventually but the jury is still out on that.
We are headed into peak holiday buying season. Google couldn't have picked a worse time to do this update. Jill aptly coined it the "scrooge" update. Hopefully things will settle down by Nov 1st. Many of us who run commercial sites and carry inventory ( I use a combination of drop shipping and inventory) have ordered plenty of inventory as many of our manufaturers run out of stock and we must make sure we have plenty of stock on hand to get through the buying season. That means I have ALOT of money on the line right now. I don't rely on anyone source for my traffic but I do get a significant amount from oraganic SERPS. If Google is going to initiate up-dates in this haphazard, uncontrolled and irresponsible way that many of us view it as, then I for one am willing to push the envelope...just a little... if it helps to ensure my positioning!
Posted 21 October 2005 - 10:06 AM
The same thing happened last year right before the Christmas buying season. And the year before it happened in the height of the Christmas buying season during November.
If I were a betting man, I would lay odds that it'll happen with Google next Oct-Nov too.
Posted 21 October 2005 - 10:53 AM
You can try writing some quick articles, adding them to your site, and getting them indexed before the weekend (probably too late for this weekend). I found, earlier this year, that new content would rank pretty well as the older content sank. It may still work, but each update is a different beast.
Posted 21 October 2005 - 03:34 PM
Fine with me. Let's call it Scrooge III - the sequel
Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:16 PM
Yep Jill I do, I'm sure that doesn't surprise you since you've been seeing my rants for so long now =)
I don't even think it's very complicated (stupid, yes - complicated, no!) ...I'm just gonna look a few more things over and then I'll post my lil' ole opinions in a different thread so as not to disturb this one.
Gotta love that GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOgle!
Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:43 PM
Good idea. I half expect all my speculation to be blown out the window next week anyway. They did that to me earlier this year. So, why not zoink me twice?
Posted 21 October 2005 - 08:49 PM
Oh Michael, I am not "zoinking" anyone. HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA. I just see what I see (which is sometimes exactly what others see and sometimes totally different) and speculate like everyone else. No biggy deal - I assure you =)
I am enjoying reading this thread actually -
Posted 21 October 2005 - 09:19 PM
Posted 22 October 2005 - 12:49 AM
That's what I meant, Jill. I wrote a paper on Google ranking strategies earlier this year (as a followup to "On The Googleness of Being") that shared some ideas and after Google reset itself over the summer, pretty much everything in that paper was rendered useless (which you may justifiably feel should serve as an object lesson to people who ask about the value of reverse engineering Google -- it ain't easy, and there are many setbacks).
There are enough inbound links to the Google ranking strategies paper that I decided to leave it in place with a foreword advising people that it has been invalidated by Google's June update.
I will not be surprised if everything I wrote in this discussion is invalidated in a few days or a couple of weeks.
I will not be surprised if it stands the test of time. When you do this sort of thing, you have to take your lumps and get used to not always being right.
Posted 24 October 2005 - 07:13 PM
Posted 26 October 2005 - 03:44 PM
We're now into the second of the three updates.
He says that they are distinct but interact to some unspecified degree. That neither confirms nor conflicts with my hypotheses.
People should start checking their rankings late on Thursday (don't beat it to death -- I suspect things will fluctuate for a few days).
Keep in mind that we still have to go through phase 3, probably late next week.
ON EDIT: Some of my personal searches have stayed the same, some have improved, and the critical new one (that I've referred to as a 125,000,000 hit search) has lost some ranking.
I'm seeing larger numbers on the raw hit results, so it looks like Google is expanding its database.
Posted 26 October 2005 - 05:41 PM
Michael, what does that mean?
Posted 26 October 2005 - 11:28 PM
It looks like they are adding millions more pages to their index with this update. Substantially more than they bring in on the regular weekly updates.
The numbers I am seeing, however, could change once the update process has completed. This is all just preliminary information.
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