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[artem]

A site with Pagerank of 6/10 put a link to my web site. But I've noticed that mine, and some other links on that site go through a script.

That's how it's liked to my site:

http://www.domain.co...www.mysite.com/


and there are others which look like this:

http://www.domain.co...www.domain.com/

http://www.domain.co...www.domain.com/

and my questions is simple:
Will this effect my pagerank?

Thank you in advance!


P.s. my apologies if it's not correct section for my question.

[Jill]

Welcome, Artem!

Generally redirects like that will not help you in the PageRank department.

Jill

[artem]

Thank you Jill

[artem]

I've emailed the owner of the web site regarding my link, and she changed the code to this:

<a href="http://www.domain.com/" onmouseover="window.status='http://www.domain.com/'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Name of the site</a> Desc. of site.<br>

I am half sure that this will be counted for my pagerank, but I just want to be sure.
What do you think?

And also, some of her links in the same list of links where I am, the code is normal, like:

<a href=http://www.domainname.com/>Name of the site</a> Big Celebs Collection!<br>

Thanks

[powerofeyes]

Hello Artem,
That link is fine, Window.status is used to change the display message in the status bar when the cursor runs over it or we can write many more events to it. It will benefit you with a page rank. But make sure NAME OF THE SITE - be some important keyword that you have optimized. Dont just add your domain name there. That is the anchor text for this link.
And the other links on her page which are normal doesnt make much of a difference just that she is not interested in changing the status bar display for her own pages.
NOTE: Status bar is the bar which is right at the bottom of the internet explorer window,
thanks,
VIJAY,

[artem]

Hello Artem,
That link is fine, Window.status is used to change the display message in the status bar when the cursor runs over it or we can write many more events to it. It will benefit you with a page rank. But make sure NAME OF THE SITE - be some important keyword that you have optimized. Dont just add your domain name there. That is the anchor text for this link.
And the other links on her page which are normal doesnt make much of a difference just that she is not interested in changing the status bar display for her own pages.
NOTE: Status bar is the bar which is right at the bottom of the internet explorer window,
thanks,
VIJAY,

Thank you for reply.


The code I've posted before is:

<a href="http://www.domain.com/" onmouseover="window.status='http://www.domain.com/'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Name of the site</a> Desc. of site.<br>


where "Name of the site" is the name of my company, but the "Desc. of site." contains my keywords. Is this allright?

Thanks

[compar]

The code I've posted before is:

<a href="http://www.domain.com/" onmouseover="window.status='http://www.domain.com/'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Name of the site</a> Desc. of site.<br>


where "Name of the site" is the name of my company, but the "Desc. of site." contains my keywords. Is this allright?

Thanks

No. It is not generally considered the best way to set up a link. The portion you are calling "Name of the site" is what is known as the anchor text. This is the text that Google will use to place the most value on the link. So unless your company name is your prime keyword -- doubtful -- don't waste this anchor text by putting your company name there.

Put your prime keyword phrase in the anchor text. Then you can put your company name and other info in "Desc. of site". We are not all agreed on whether or not Google reads or evaluates the text you call "Desc.of site". But we do know the most important thing in a link is the anchor text so use it for your most important keyword.

[qwerty]

I agree with Compar that setting up the link that way isn't the best way, but I think I should add that, apart from the onmouseover and onmouseout (which are normally left out) it's pretty standard. In fact, I'd say it's even more common to have anchor text of a company name and no description text, so this is slightly better than that.

In other words, if you can get things the way Compar is suggesting, that would definitely be the best thing for you, but if you can't, what they're offering is fine.

[compar]

In other words, if you can get things the way Compar is suggesting, that would definitely be the best thing for you, but if you can't, what they're offering is fine.

Qwerty,

Almost anybody who offers to put up a link to your site these days will use whatever anchor text you ask. A link to you company name is almost as useless as using only your company name in your title.

There are all kinds of links out there that use no anchor text and have you click directly on the URL or worse yet on "click here". But if we are talking about Google and page rank then these links are considered to be inferior to links using keywords in the anchor text.

Why would you say I'm right and then proceed to diminish what I have said? If artem's concern is page rank then I say get the link right.

[qwerty]

I'm absolutely not diminishing what you've said, Bob. You described the best possible situation, and I agreed that that's what it was. Artem asked if the way the link is now set up is alright, and while it's not as good as it could possibly be, I would say it's alright, depending on the situation. That is, the owner of the other site has already accepted Artem's request to remove the script. They may not be willing to put keywords in the anchor text.

On some sites, they're not. One of the site I run is set up that way, and I have in fact refused to put keywords into anchor text when people have requested it. I put the keywords (if I consider them relevant) in the title attribute instead, and no one has complained when I've told them I'd do it that way. Another site I run doesn't link to any other sites at all. I think the name of a site is what most users expect to see in anchor text, in spite of the fact that putting keywords there would be better for the linked-to site from an SEO perspective. A lot of webmasters think about their users before they think of someone else's ranking.

So my only point was that having things the way they are now shouldn't be a deal breaker. If that's the most they're willing to give, it's pretty standard, and I'd say it's acceptable. It's not perfect, or as good as one might hope, but it is alright, and that was Artem's question.

[Jill]

Links that don't have keywords in the anchor text aren't useless. They still count towards a pages overall PageRank (which has nothing to do with keywords).

Jill

[compar]

Links that don't have keywords in the anchor text aren't useless. They still count towards a pages overall PageRank (which has nothing to do with keywords).

Jill

Ok so answer me this. We have said for years that relevance is very important for links. If my company name is Joe Blow Inc. and I use that as anchor text for all links to my site, how does Google judge the relevance of the link?

Are you now saying that the only thing that counts towards PR is the PR of the linking page and the relevance of the link counts for nothing?

Then we have often surmised on this forum that the explanation for a site having a high ranking in the index, particularly when the search term used to find it does not even appear to be optimized for, is that the search term must be used frequently as anchor text in backlinks to the page.

So I advise someone to this affect and you Jill and Qwerty seem to be saying "oh no it's not that important".

Is best practice -- and isn't that what we should be advocating here -- to have a prime keyword phrase in your anchor text or does it really not matter a damn?

[qwerty]

It is best for ranking. It doesn't have any effect on PageRank.

But I agreed with you that what you've described is best for ranking. All I'm saying is, like the song says, you can't always get what you want. It's great to get your keywords in your anchor text, but it doesn't always happen, no matter how nicely you ask for it.

[Jill]

Bob, it's the same thing I've always said. PageRank has nothing to do with words. Never has never will.

But Google's algorithm DOES. PageRank does not equal Google's algorithm, it's just a part of it.

A link is a link is a link as far as the PageRank part of the algorithm goes.

Keywords in hypertext links is EXTREMELY important. I've never said it isn't. But if you can't get it, the link still has plenty of value.

Jill