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Posted 30 October 2003 - 10:39 AM
I've just bought a domain name and some hosting space and would like to start building a simple travel website.
I know the basic principals about SEO and would like to have a go a building the site myself. What software programs would you recomend for a beginer. I've used Front Page a bit before but comments I've read on other threads seem to suggest it isn't very good.
Alternatively how do I find a good (but fairly) cheap web designer. There are so many people offering there services its hard to pick.
Posted 30 October 2003 - 11:00 AM
as for html editor I like visual studio but expensive for starers there are plenty free editor but I don't use them
I would stay away from frontpage and dreamweaver.
As for fairly cheap designers you might want to look at template sites like
then you can edit it using your new html skills
Edited by fred, 30 October 2003 - 11:08 AM.
Posted 30 October 2003 - 11:19 AM
What is the problem with Front Page and Dreamweaver, they are only 2 systems I've used before. Is it just the flexability that Html coding gives you ?
Posted 30 October 2003 - 11:24 AM
you can still use them , but learn html and once the page is done go in the code and fix those extra lines of code.
you will probably get font tags all over the place
knowing html will allow you to find the problems in your code.
If you have problems with your site PM me I will gladly help out.
Posted 30 October 2003 - 11:25 AM
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Posted 30 October 2003 - 11:41 AM
Its the first time I've tried an online forum, I'd almost forgotten people could be so helpful just for the sake of being helpful.
To long in the corporate world for me
Posted 30 October 2003 - 12:04 PM
Many people have bad mouthed Front page, a little unfairly in my opinion.
The reason is that FrontPage adds proprietary extensions that render the page useless unless FrontPage extensions are installed on your host's server
True it will do this, but ONLY if you allow it to, in the settings you can actually set ALL, or the best part of validation. You can actually decide what browsers you want to ensure the html will run in, you can turn off front page extensions etc making it a fairly good tool IMO. N.B. if you turn off front page stuff then you will have to use a cgi script for the forms as this is one of the FP extensions.
But it DOES bloat the code, so learning html would be a good idea to allow you to remove things you do not want in there.
In everything you have to strike a balance if you are a travel business then i presume you will be doing some real world promotion of your website, if you are doing it yourself then it may be worth taking a peek at http://webdesign.abo...cs/dreamweaver/ there are a few resources there that might help you, although there are great help and training files with dreamweaver. In fact i seem to remember the example site is in fact a travel site, or was that in fireworks, too much data too little brain
Your visitors are not going to know a thing about the code, so if they are typing in your domain name, then better they find a nice looking easy to navigate, fast to load website, than nothing at all, even if it is pants with regard SEO. (Jill please don't ban me for saying that) If however you are looking 100% to promote your website online then optimisation from the outset is a must.
Posted 30 October 2003 - 12:26 PM
FrontPage and dreamweaver will add code that doesn't belong
One way to buy Dreamweaver cheaply is to buy an old version on EBay and then buy the upgrade version to the new version.
Posted 30 October 2003 - 12:40 PM
There is even a Prototype Pad feature for those who like the WYSIWYG kind of thing...
Posted 30 October 2003 - 01:02 PM
FrontPage 2003 and later editions are excellent only code which it adds are the font tags. Only older versions used to add M$ tags like MSO span, mstheme. Right now it is not much used. But have to be very carelful when using frontpage with MS word. When you try copying from MS Word it tends to bring the exact format inside the site and this brings lot of extra code like font tags with it. So i recommand when you copy text first copy it to Notepad and then to FrontPage. Other than that FrontPage is excellent especially when using with FrontPage Extensions this is one of the best software you can control a large ecom site virtually. I control sites of about 500 pages and above directly through frontpage and it works just great. But dreamweaver doesn't make life as comfortable as FrontPage when you want to control a site virtually.
But beginners are recommended to use Dreamweaver since it doesn't add too much extra code like FrontPage. The current versions of Dreamweaver(dreamweaver MX and dreamweaver MX 2004 are excellent and has some unique features it is worth buying this product,
Both Dreamweaver and FrontPage and compatible with all most all the latest extensions like aspx and more.
If you would have used FrontPage 2003 or later you can see some build in DHTML features which are real fun,
Posted 02 November 2003 - 07:45 AM
As for the Frontpage thing, I utilise it for some things and not for others. The new version is very nice, cleaner and friendlier. As OWG stated, you simply turn all the rubbish off if not needed and use as a HTML editor. Dreamweaver is also very nice, the new MX version that is.
Posted 02 November 2003 - 10:53 AM
As with many (all?) WYSIWYGs, Dreamweaver allows you to set font tags -- but it's also supported external stylesheets from at least Dreamweaver 4.0. The fact that some may not use it this way is no different than someone hand-coding font tags in a text editor. The person, not the tool, and all that.
lolmarlor, I'd say if you're starting out, use whatever's easiest for you, with the understanding that the more you learn, the better you'll be able to control what you're doing.
Posted 03 November 2003 - 01:18 AM
As for dreamweaver making extra code, dreamweaver is known for not doing this, that is why it is the editor of choice for most professional developers. It only adds tags that specify, for example, if you put in a table, it will just be an empty table tag unless you specify different things like width and border. Which is very much unlike frontpage that pretty much puts in every possible tag you can imagine (and more) even if you don't want it.
I've also tried the Contribute trial to see what it's like, and pretty sweet little program to give customers so they can update their own sites. Like a dreamweaver light for the person that doesn't know anything about making webpages.
Posted 03 November 2003 - 10:00 AM
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