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Alternatives To Wordtracker Or Overture Terms?


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#1 lorenbaker

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 09:09 AM

I currently use WordTracker and Overture to weigh the search popularity of keywords.

Do you suggest any alternatives?

Thanks,
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#2 Jill

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 10:22 AM

Welcome, Loren! :rant:

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 11:16 AM

Oops. :doh: Sorry about that Jill.

Well, this is a great forum and I'm happy to have joined!

Thanks,
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Posted 30 October 2003 - 08:36 PM

I don't think there are any serious alternatives to Wordtracker and Overture, to get "real world" search counts, unless you want to pay for a campaign on Google Adwords.

The Adwords "keyword sandbox" provides some relative values for Google, but it's based on advertising click-throughs.

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Posted 31 October 2003 - 05:27 AM

are there any UK only keyword generators?
i like your 'crazy amercian' words but there are times when keywords used by just us UK folks would be really usefull!
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the google example is quite good but it doesnt list which is the most popular, unless, of course, it is listed with most popular first? does anybody know?

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Posted 31 October 2003 - 10:41 AM

Wordtracker is based in the UK...

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 06:58 PM

I would try to seek out the highest bid keyword in Overture and Adwords. Usually advertisers are willing to pay more for keywords that convert better than those that do not, as well as better for ROI. Find those golden keywords and use them to optimize.
Use overture keyword suggestion or wordtracker to find related words, and then find the best converting alternatives.


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Posted 01 November 2003 - 07:59 PM

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 10:21 AM

Wordtracker, Overture and Google sandbox are probably the most reliable.

Other options worth testing include: Good Keywords and Even Better Keywords. Although I must admit I do not use them much.

It's good to review your site's log file to fine-tune.

#10 Jill

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 10:48 AM

Loren, are you having any problems with Wordtracker? Why do you feel the need for alternatives. Personally, once I get to know a system, I'm reluctant to switch...but that's just me!

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 11:45 AM

Wordtracker is based in the UK...

That's true but the question was is there any service that returns search terms information from the sub set of searches done by Engish speaking people from the United Kingdom.

The fact that the company who supplies Wordtracker happens to be from the UK has nothing to do with their results. Their results are garnered from a database of "all terms" searched on with no attempt to apply any demographic or geographic filtering.

I would think that the only way to find typical UK search terms would be to apply your own "filter" when using Wordtracker. For instance only look up search terms with UK spelling.

For instance, I just did two look ups in Wordtracker:

1. For 'colouring books' -- the British spelling -- and Google reports a count of 66.

2. For 'coloring books' -- the US spelling -- and Google reports a count of 1038.

So if you want to sell this type of book exclusively in the UK you would use spelling 1.

In my opinion you never come to Wordtracker or any other tool without having done some thinking or research -- ask friends and associates what terms they might use -- about the possible keywords in advance. If you have done this I think you can extract the information you need from Wordtracker as my example above illustrates.

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 03:21 PM

Google Adwords campaigns can uncover counts based on language and geography. You can run a campaign, targeting English language only, and the UK only. Your ads will show up only on those specific searches. This costs money, but gives you a much better count than Wordtracker possibly could.




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