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#1 projectphp

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 01:48 AM

It seems like everyone has a complaint stored up about DMOZ. I am getting a bit tired of it, so in the interest of longevity, here is my guide to dealing with DMOZ.

How to Submit
Before you start, be honest: is your site really worthy of listing? Do you really have anything that is unique or interesting? Is the cat you are submitting to looking full? submission policies and instructions. Look like they want you?

If you are sure your site belongs in DMOZ, continue on.

1. Go to DMOZ (der)
2. Find the most appropriate category - this doesn't mean shopping, or even shopping / socks, if you only sell battery powered socks. Be specific.
3. Click the "suggest URL" button.
4. Read the page - Try to abide by the rules.
5. Fill in the details honestly - Avoid hyperbole, avoid lying and imagine that you had nothing to do with the site when writing stuff.
5. Click submit.

OK, I submitted, So What Next
Go make babies. Seriously. You got nine months of time minimum to wait before it starts getting "a bit long" since you submitted. And I mean a gestational 40 weeks, not that 36 week calendar month rubbish.

If, after nine months, your site hasn't been listed, consider re-submitting. However, realise that to do so will likely put you to the bottom of the page of submission, for all those editors that sort by submission date (99.9% I would guess).

But it is really important to me, I need to KNOW, I am hurting, HURTING...
OK, first: We don't know what happened to your submission. We really don't. So there is nothing we can do on that front.

Also, now that Resource Zone no longer accept questions about submissions, there is nowhere to find out. Deal with it (get used to that phrase folks smile.gif).

But I heard that {INSERT CONSPIRACY THEORY HERE AND MAKE SURE TO USE THE WORD "GOOGLE" AT LEAST TWICE}
You thought wrong smile.gif

No matter what anyone says, DMOZ is not a silver bullet nor some sort of panacea for the ranking ills you are suffering. Blaming DMOZ for the fact your site isn't in its rightful position of number one for {INSERT TERM HERE} is missing the point, and self delusion.

A DMOZ link is in no way vital to success, so long as success isn't defined as "getting a listing in DMOZ", and there is always something you can do that is productive (like make me laugh by posting in the Pub.)

OK smart alec, I get the point, have got anything else to say about DMOZ?
Actually, yeh I do (why am I arguing with myself? I don't know Michael, but don't take it personally wink.gif)

So here is a collection of my (random) thoughts on this manner:

1. DMOZ are SLOWWWWW. VERRRRRRY slow. Glaciers move faster. If they were on the freeway, a sloth would likely overtake them. Hans Moleman is a maniacal driver with road rage compared to DMOZ.

Deal with it.

2. This forum has no influence over DMOZ. Even if a moderator here is an editor there, editors only have influence over a small cat. Complaining here will not help you in any way.

Deal with it.

3. Don't expect DMOZ to change. Look, we would all like to see DMOZ doing things "better". Just don't hold your breath!

And deal with it wink.gif

4. If you MUST complain here, expect to see the post closed. Life is too short.

Deal with it.

5. If they are slow in dealing with new listings, they are even slower updating listings. I mean, if a sloth is slow, and a glaciar is slower, and continental drift is even slower, and the degredation of radioactive substances is even slower still, updating a listing is slower still.

There is nothing you can do about and you are just going to have to (wait for it....)
Deal with it.

6. If you feel frustrated or like complaining, go write a Grandpa Simpson style letter and post it on your blog.

If it really starts to overwhelm you, go outside and get some of the rays from that big yellow thing in the sky named after the makers of Solaris (s-u-n?? Heard of it, never seen it smile.gif)

I hope that helps. If it doesn't, well, at least I feel better smile.gif

#2 hhhhhhh

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 06:44 PM

Hi projectphp!

Just read your post, well I think dmoz is acting much faster in some cases, I've got web-sites listed in less than a month for example.

It depends on the editors team I believe.

#3 lisety

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 10:43 PM

Thanks Michael, this should help everyone deal with it tongue.gif
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Posted 28 December 2005 - 12:23 AM

Thanks for a well thought out description of the DMOZ process. If only every DMOZ poster on every SEO forum would read that and believe it - we'd all be in a better state of mind.

Only one thing, updates may appears to be processed slowly, but in many cases, they are probably processed faster than you think and ignored. My guess is that less than 10% of updates are accepted, and of those maybe less than 20% are accepted as provided.

e.g. an update to change a URL will be ignored if the old site at the old URL still works

a request to add www. to the front of the URL will be ignored if it works just as well without it.

a request to add info to the description - and that info is not reflected by the site's contents will be ignored

adding keywords and hype is ignored

adding words to the title/description that are redundant or are already in the category name is not ok



etc.etc.

#5 Loco.M

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 11:49 PM

I submitted 3 quality sites to dmoz last year, I'll have to look, and see if they accepted me yet smile.gif

#6 Nueromancer

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 03:47 AM

QUOTE(Loco.M @ Jun 1 2006, 04:49 AM)
I submitted 3 quality sites to dmoz last year, I'll have to look, and see if they accepted me yet smile.gif
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I have one of my clients sites that is in dmoz but the link from dmoz and google directory seems to have droped out of there backlinks.

Have Google Big Daddied DMOZ and themselves?

#7 Jill

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 06:26 PM

Google's backward links checker doesn't work. Please see the pinned thread about that in the link building forum.

#8 projectphp

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 06:34 PM

OFFTOPIC:
But thanks for bringing this threa back to the top. I forgot how cathartic it is smile.gif


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Posted 28 July 2006 - 03:44 AM

Hi everyone,

I actually came here because I noticed today that DMOZ has only about 570 pages indexed in Google and I wondered if anyone noticed. Probably not! I was just wondering if I was using a different data centre (being located in South Africa and all), however, I went to www.megaproxy.com/freesurf and tried from there and it was the same.
Unless the site: operator is also broken?

Now, you probably are saying - so what? Or: See if we care!

The consensus on this forum seem to be in general that submitting to DMOZ and Yahoo is a waste of time and in general, I agreed with it. Until recently when I started to pick up more and more info regarding the fact that Google is paying much less attenting to PR and more to 'trust' and/or the quality of inbound links. This report also seems to support this.
fortuneinteractive.com/laptop.php

Any comments?
Christine

Edited by Randy, 28 July 2006 - 07:02 AM.


#10 Randy

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 07:03 AM

Wild stab here, but I bet you're doing your site: search with the www in there, right Christine? eg site:www.dmoz.org

Try it without the www and you'll get very different results. wink.gif




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