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[powerofeyes]

Hello,
I want someone to review this site. This site uses _top, _blank options of HTML language I don't have clear idea how search engines understands it. some pages in this site and inside frames. Please check and tell me.
site url please see this site.
Answers to the question rules of the forum.

General:
This site is complete with all the optimization needed.

This is relatively new site and up for 2 months.

SEO.
I do have incoming links but google has not yet picked it up.
Keywords targeted. (health insurance california,individual health insurance california,health insurance in california,california health insurance plan,health insurance ca,california dental insurance,california medical insurance,group health insurance california,california state health insurance,self employed health insurance california )

I don't WANT ANY CODE REVIEW ONLY NEED SUGGESTION ON HOW SEARCH ENGINES HANDLE SITE WHICH HAS SOME FRAMES IN IT. ESPECIALLY THE OPTIONS _TOP, _BLANK

targeted audience are of all ages who are eligible for insurance.

We only offer insurance quotes, don't want anyone to do business with us.
This is a quite useful site.


purpose of the site is to provide insurance quotes.

I don't WANT ANY SUGGESTIONS on coding please.

Finally i would like to say google has visited my site twice but didn't index more than 1 page. Can anyone give an explanation for this. LACK OF INCOMING LINKS IS NOT A PROBLEM PLEASE don't SAY THIS. PLEASE GIVE ME SUGGESTIONS ON _blank and _top and how search engines handle them as well as how search engines handle a site which has frames inside it. These frames brings a third party site inside so please check and tell me.
thanks,
VIJAY
(WEB PROMOTIONS).

Edited by powerofeyes, 17 October 2003 - 12:15 AM.

[Peter]

Vijay,

Completely optimized? Using unethical SEO techniques I assume.

It is not so strange that no other pages are indexed. You use some kind of technique to present another page to the search engines than you present to your visitors. That is not allowed by search engines. (Googles shows another page in its cache than I see in my browser) Your problem is not in the frames, but in the "completely optimized" pages.

Sorry, but there really is nothing I can do for you. I practice Ethical SEO and this forum promotes ethical SEO. So I doubt you will get any help here.

Peter

[powerofeyes]

Hello Mr Peter,
I cant understand what do you mean which cache you saw in google. Go and type "everyhealthplan" and see you will see the same cache page as my site. I dont know what you typed may be you saw something else or the old site we had.
All are ethical techniques in this site. If you cant understand the concept behind the site then please dont give your suggestions, Or one more chance is you must have seen a data center result which is not current please check all three datacenters www.google.com,www2.google.com,www3.google.com. and the cache of the word "everyhealthplan".

thanks,
VIJAY
(WEBPROMOTIONS).

[Jill]

I see nothing in Google's cache. A blank page. (Could be my browser.)

In the code of your actual page, you have a totally spammy comment tag. That should be removed, for sure.


Jill

[powerofeyes]

Hello Jill,
ill remove that comment tag. But as far as I know comment tags are completely ignored by large search engines right,
thanks,
VIJAY.

[SEOCub]

Why does it say this in the cached page:

This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.ezhealthplans.com/.

You are asking for a review of another URL?

The source code of the Google cached page for your site which is a blank page shows:

 
<frame name="header" scrolling="no" noresize target="main" src="http://www.quotit.net/ezhp/top.htm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
<frame name="main" scrolling="auto" src="http://www.quotit.net/ezhp/main.htm" marginwidth="5" marginheight="2">

Why should Google index your site if you are drawing content from another site? Except if ezhealthplans isnot your site and Google is as confused as I am!!

[Peter]

My browser also shows a blank page, but if you open that page in front page it shows a framed page with the noframes part containing this:

ndividual and group health insurance plan quote california,health insurance ca,california dental insurance,california medical insurance,california state health insurance,self employed,california health individual insurance quote southern,california blue cross health insurance

Individual & Group Health Insurance plan in California Dental insurance quote Medical insurance quote, state health insurance in California California blue cross health insurance self employed health insurance,health insurance ca,california dental insurance,california medical insurance,california state health insurance,self employed california health individual insurance quote southern,california blue cross health insurance

(second paragraph are all links)
In the frames there is another web site than what the visitor gets to see.

Why does your site present this to a web spider and show the visitor something else?

Peter

[powerofeyes]

Hello Peter,
I can understand your problem. I feel you are seeing our old site. The site which was there in google cache is quotit.net. Actually quotit.net site loads into the frame everyhealthplan. It was like that before that is why site was redesigned and now the site you are seeing is up only for 1 to 2 months.
Everyhealthplan.com doesnt have quote of its own, they get the quote from quotit.net. That is what all the california health insurance companies are doing. That is the problem with the new site too. i am forced to bring quotit.net to this site in some places. That is why I asked your suggestion whether this is write or wrong and how search engine treats. You can see this frame loading insite our site by clicking any of the quotes on our site or by clicking providers on the menu. i think you can understand now.
And google's cache problem I dont know because it is perfect here. One reason could be it is still not updated in your place that is all I can say.
Ok coming to SEOclub's answer ezhealthplans.com is another domain which points to the site everyhealthplan.com. Both domain points to the same IP that is why you are confused.
OK better you people see the site and tell me instead of the search engine results. Please give me suggestions how search engines handle this option _top and _blank. And also I bring an other site into our site frames is it wrong just tell me about this. I am thinking of removing these frame pages and set a link to the site which provide quotes. Like a pop up window using javascript so that search engines cant follow it. Is this a right idea,
reply,
thanks,.
VIJAY

[Jill]

Hello Jill,
ill remove that comment tag. But as far as I know comment tags are completely ignored by large search engines right,
thanks,
VIJAY.

That's right, so why are you bothering to use it for spamming?

All it will do is set your site up to be red-flagged for further scrutiny.

Jill

[Peter]

VIJAY,

Finally i would like to say google has visited my site twice but didn't index more than 1 page. Can anyone give an explanation for this.

This was a question. I´m pretty sure that this is caused by this strange cache situation. I did find that Google does have a cache version of www.everyhealthplan.com from october 16,... You have 2 domains pointing to the same IP? I´m not very experienced about this, but I would think that in this case the search engines will think that there are 2 duplicate site. Perhaps somebody can say more about this. To me it seems like things are set up to trick the search engines,... and as you can see,. it doesn't seem to work.

Anyway,.. in your pages _top and _blank are not handled by the search engines because they can not find the pages they are in. These pages are in frames and won't be indexed. _blank just tells the browser to open a link in a new window and a search engine doesn't have a problem with that. _top is used in framed pages only, so search engines won't find it.

You seem to be very convinced that your site has all "optimization needed", but I don't agree. But ok,... your choice,....

Regards,

Peter

[powerofeyes]

Hello Peter,
Thanks for your reply. About 2 domains pointing to a single IP actually we did this because my client had 2 insurance sites. Now both sites are merged into a single site. So he had the ezhealthplans.com domain useless so he just pointed it to this domain. But i recommanded my client not to do it. He removed it now. We never thought of tricking search engines in any way.
And about the _top and _blank i just want search engines to ignore these pages. There are 11 pages which are in frames. All the other 80 pages are not in frames. ill be happy if google indexes atleast 30 of these 80 pages but it is not doing it. So My question does this _top and _blank links on top of the index page is misleading the search engines. If so I want to remove those pages.
So can you tell me whether google is misleaded by this links that are right at the top of the index page.
I just want to confirm myself before removing them and adding some different technique instead of frames.
And about Search engine optimization i rarely use Header, blockquote and other tags in my optimization and I have 15/17 sites success so just tell me suggestion on the technical aspect of the site,
I dont want suggestion on optimization for this site just want to clear the technical problem that might cause to search engines because of these links at the top of the site.
thanks,
VIJAY.

[Jill]

It sounds like you just haven't given it enough time. If Google is still indexing the old version, than it's just a matter of waiting. Too soon to tell.

Jill

[powerofeyes]

Hello Jill,
As you said it is just the matter of time and I was jumping too early that google didnt index my site.
Today 30 of my pages were indexed and I am confident that the whole site will be indexed soon,

thanks,
VIJAY.

[ajeshnair]

It seems the site optimized unethicaly!

SE's can bring traffic. Before going to full fledge optimization do take care of design and navigation.

You have used several fonts and navigation need to be improved. Like Google say think of your customers first then search engines.

[domokun]

bump the spam links at the foot of the center panel.
optimise you image filenames to include more accurate keywords.
get rid of the spam from the image alt tags; if you where a visually impaired user you would never visit this site again.
try adding title attributes to you navigation links; do not fill these with more spam.
dont take this personally, but i kinda hope this site doesnt rank well so that the time and effort im putting into ethical seo practices can be justified.