QUOTE(excel30 @ Feb 21 2005, 08:44 AM)
Regarding "Patrick Warburton"
Look at the top site on google, you say "not much content", but it links out to info on all his movies etc,,,,,so essentially that is content,,info on him,,,if its not much content,,,why are you linking to it as well,
Now importantly,,,notice how every page that links out from that page also links back to Patrick Warburton page with the link text " Patrick Warburton"
Thats one reason why that page is ranked so high and yours is nowhere.
Can you ask for permission to get the film reviews etc on your site? 1 page for each movie,,,all linking back to your "Patrick Warburton" index page
Also look at your other pages on your site, at least once on each page whenever you use the text "Patrick Warburton" make it into a text link to your index page,
Googles not a quick fix,,,but without the above changes and realising from above where you have been going wrong, then you will never get high again on this term.
All of the other sites in the top rankings are sites that cover many more actors than just Patrick. They're totally different sites than his official website -- most provide database-generated pages about the specific person. Perhaps therein lies the problem. On those sites it makes sense to have the links to the home page be "home," but links to the page(s) about Patrick be "Patrick Warburton." Even IMDB has a home page, but people aren't interested in their home page, they're interested in the actor they're searching for in the database. And *EVERYBODY* links to IMDB, and not just for Patrick Warburton.
In fact, knowing what I know about the sites in the top 10, at least, they're ALL database-generated. Perhaps that's a clue to the changes Google made, especially since, as imperfect as his site is, it was at #3 for many months until they made the change. I must have been doing something right...until they changed the algorithm. So much for dynamically-generated pages not being search engine-friendly.
Patrick's site is a different kind of site. The whole site is his. People (usually his fans) already know they're on his official website. I'm concerned that the user is going to get confused if they click on a link with his name on it, and it jumps to his home page. I think I'll broach this subject on his forum and ask his users what they think.
I've also been trying to get Patrick's site listed in DMOZ/Open Directory for the last year, but they still haven't done anything about it. I recently (very nicely) asked about it on the Open Directory's forum, and was essentially told, "We'll get to it when we get to it. The time frame is totally random and there is no basis for expectation as to when it *might* appear. Go away." I even inquired about becoming an editor. I heard nothing.
I did think, though, and have broached the idea to his wife to talk to him about, an interview with him that I would do (thank you, journalism classes) and that would appear on his home page. I'd periodically interview him again.
As you can see, I've really been trying to analyze this. In the meantime, I'm working on back links.
You've given me much to think about. I will see if I can incorporate your ideas naturally into the page