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[ontop]

one of my sites (5 months old - PR0) is still deep in the sandbox.

another one (20 months old - PR5) didn't move a bit - many 1# places.

other one (24 months old - PR5) didn't move a bit - many 1# places.

another one (5 months old - PR3) where in the 1 page for 5 keywords/phrase- and zooom.
it went off from the first page,and now i can't find it in the top 100.
for this site i used adwords for 3 months.
I have to increase the bids for the adwords - wich make me think about the logic of all this.

They know that we have no real alternative - and they can do what they want...-even forcing us to buy or pay for more adwords (!)

I e-mailed google again.

I'll let you know if i get any response
...and now its time for beer and football

[lyn]

Florida or Gladys???

Buzzwords for previous conniption fits in the Google algorithm.


L.

[Jill]

Moved up from #4 to #1 over the weekend for main keyword on one of my sites, now I'm down to #3.

That's normal fluctuation you could see in any given day, week, month, or even minute.

[InetBranding]

That's normal fluctuation you could see in any given day, week, month, or even minute.

Yea I know, I was just sharing my results for the update.

[ldcdc]

Well, for me it's definitely not the season to be jolly. I was afraid I had my site penalised for some obscure reason. Now I'm positive it's about these moves that took place recently.

I used to have the site ranked #12-18 for its main keywords.

Now, I'm on #17 for: "main keywords" domain.com

It's funny how the two sites I have, are build on the "content is king" idea, yet I never enjoyed any of the much tooted benefits of that. Basically no "free links" and always hit by the search engines. For one of the phrases phrase I'm competing, the #1 site is one that has thousands of link exchanges in place, with no regard to quality of anything like that. I know the industry very well. That is *not* the site to be #1 for that phrase.

I considered the SE war to be lost long ago, but it stil comes as a surprise to me that my 16 months old site is being hit like this. It is basically out of the SE results (meaning burried where no sane man would care to look).

<sarcastic> Way to go Google the search engine! </sarcastic> (I still love the new Google maps though.)

Back to real work, as the SE war is lost.

[msweiger]

Hi Everyone,

The latest Allegra update seems to have resulted in a bifurcated Google index. I use the www.mcdar.net Google Data Center Watch tool, and if I run it (www.mcdar.net/dance/index.php) on the 6 new data centers (the default) for many keyword phrases, I get one set of results for the first two displayed IPs:

64.233.161.105
64.233.161.147

and a different set of results for the last 4 displayed IPs:

64.233.171.99
64.233.171.104
64.233.171.105
64.233.171.147

Try it for the phrase

golf gifts

and look at the number #5 position for that phrase. The first two report one site the other four report a different site at the #5 position. The first #5 site is at the #10 position for the remain 4 data centers.

I can give over 100 other examples of this.

If I simply use Google as a user, I sometimes get one result and sometimes the other.

I know the standard answer would be that the index update isn't over yet, but this bifurcated result has been static now for about 4 days, and the update began on February 2nd, over one week ago.

Are we now in a world where there are two permanent live Google indexes? Any other thoughts?

Mark

[Bleau]

I've noticed that blogs are disappearing too. Or their title and description anyways. Plus I've seen other major movement. None of which makes any sense. If they move blogs to google news wouldn't that make the news they present much more un-reliable since it could come from anyone?

[qwerty]

Off-topic, but I have to ask: Who decided to name this update after an allergy medication?

Somewhat back on-topic: Mark, isn't it possible that those other datacenters just haven't fully updated yet?

[Jill]

Sorry but this update is actually called "hypodrite."

It has been decided.

[Scottie]

Hypodrite, the bifurcated update.

[Jill]

To cure hypodrite...

Just take 2 allegra and call me in the morning.

[torka]

Hypodrite, the bifurcated update.

No call for that sort of language on a G-rated forum!!



--Torka

[BobetteKyle]

What's a hypodrite?

[Jill]

Nobody knows, Bobette. But it's the name of this Feb. Google update so get used to it!

[djonline]

msweiger THANK YOU!

I thought I was losing my &^$@#$ mind.

To summarize, I have created 3 sites with the "content is king" methodology (1 is mine, 2 are my client's) and *had* been enjoying really great rankings on my site for many really great keyword phrases that bring targeted customers for the past 8 months. And my client’s 2 sites were doing tremendous on Yahoo and MSN but I could never crack Google with his site for some reason.

Some of my coveted keyword phrases I was enjoying with my site were on searches that brought results of over 3,000,000+ results. Then last Saturday my site was completely banished from Google. GONE. My site was and still is fully indexed (over 2000+ pages) and I have 199 "reported" backlinks in Google's link: query, but I can’t even be found with searches that only have only several hundred results!!!!

And then all of a sudden last night, the 2 sites I created for my client started ranking really well with Google. And it seems depending on what datacenter you hit, his site is #8 on Google for the keyword phrase wedding shoes. WEDDING SHOES. There are over 5,000,000 competing sites. But the crazy thing is that I'll see his site at #8 and then just a few minutes later he's nowhere to be found under wedding shoes and there will only be 2,000,000 results.

And to continue on this algo rollercoaster, just this morning I started receiving lots of traffic again from Google on my site, under the very competitive keyword phrases I had been banished on and just as quickly as I am found under these phrases, I am gone again.

I still think it had been because I had a secondary domain name that I used DNS pointing to relay people to my site instead of a 301 redirect (see this thread where I asked about DNS http://www.highranki...howtopic=12482) I still think this may have had something to do with my banishing because if I search for my secondary domain, "+www.ultimatenourishment.+com" Google knows about it! How? I have no idea as I have never used that domain name, just reserved it and pointed it to my site, because it is my company's name. As of yesterday, I now have my secondary domain set up with a 301 (which I should have done all along....), and hopefully will get back in with Google's good graces.

Meanwhile, it is painful to see the major peaks and valleys with my site and with my client's site. I know Jill, I can hear you in my brain.... 'stop checking rankings'..... LOL