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Posted 07 October 2003 - 07:15 AM
Possibly someone can help me. I'm not fluent in html and I am trying to understand why my friends site isn't being indexed by google. The site has been around for a long time and no matter what page I check, its not been indexed even though there is a page rank of 3.
The site is http://www.lifetimem...rs.com/home.asp , below is a shot of the head section
<TITLE>Mothers jewelry, personalized gifts, personalized jewelry, birthstone jewelry, birthstones</TITLE>
<META NAME="DESCRIPTION" CONTENT="Mothers jewelry, personalized gifts,personalized jewelry, birthstone jewelry, birthstones - The Leader in Creative and Innovative Quality Jewelry for Mothers and Grandmothers">
<META NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="Mothers jewelry, personalized gifts,personalized jewelry, birthstone jewelry, birthstones, engraved gifts,engraved jewelry, charm, charms, pendant, pendants, mothers charms,mother charm, mother ring, mothers rings, mother's rings, mother's bracelets, mothers bracelets, bracelet, bracelets, mothers necklace, mother necklace, charm bracelet, charm bracelets, grandmother jewelry, grandmother gifts, gift for mom, gift for grandma, gemstone jewelry, gem stone jewelry, gemstones, gemstone, ">
<META NAME="OWNER" CONTENT="">
<META NAME="COPYRIGHT" CONTENT="Lifetime Mothers">
<META NAME="AUTHOR" CONTENT="Lifetime Mothers">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="EXPIRES" CONTENT="">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="CHARSET" CONTENT="ISO-8859-1">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-LANGUAGE" CONTENT="English">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="VW96.OBJECT TYPE" CONTENT="Document">
<META NAME="RATING" CONTENT="General">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="index,follow">
<META NAME="REVISIT-AFTER" CONTENT="21 days">
<link rel="stylesheet" href="text/storestyle.css" type="text/css">
Any help would be appreciated
Posted 07 October 2003 - 07:32 AM
It looks like you've got a number of empty meta tags. There's no need for them to be there at all. Really, all I'd recommend is keyword, description, charset, and content-language. I'd also recommend adding a DTD, like <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> (depending on what version of html you're using) before your opening head tag.
I've never seen a body tag with carriage returns in it. I don't imagine it's a problem, but it couldn't hurt to fix that. In fact, you can put that information into your style sheet and change the tag to just <body>
I don't think any of that is going to boost your rankings much, if at all. I think the main problem is backlinks. I see two sites linking to your domain name, and anyone navigating to your domain name gets redirected to home.asp.
Posted 07 October 2003 - 07:46 AM
Off the top of my head my first guess is that it has something to do with the home page redirecting to home.asp. Is that new? I'm thinking if it is a new thing, that the page is currently indexed at the root domain name and just not yet at home.asp. If this is it, then eventually, Google will change it to home.asp, they just haven't gotten around to it.
Without more info, that's my guess.
Added, yep, just checked and the www.domain.com page of the site is indeed in Google's cache.
Posted 07 October 2003 - 07:54 AM
Thanks for your input.
I checked the indexed pages and they are link pages. Lifetimemothers.com uses Link Partners for reciprical link exchange.
If I look at any other page on this site I find the following
Your search - cache:http://www.lifetimemothers.com/Home.asp - did not match any documents.
- Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
- Try different keywords.
- Try more general keywords.
Also, you can try Google Answers for expert help with your search.
As to your recommendation, I'm not familiar with the opening coding you recommended. but I will look into it.
(I'd recommend adding a DTD, like <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> (depending on what version of html you're using) before your opening head tag)
Posted 07 October 2003 - 07:57 AM
Posted 07 October 2003 - 08:04 AM
Is the redirect the problem? I don't have any experience with this type of coding techinique, or understand why this redirect is there.
Posted 07 October 2003 - 08:13 AM
I think it just needs time to get indexed in the new form.
Posted 07 October 2003 - 08:31 AM
Because of my lack of experience in this matter I am having difficulty in understanding your response.
Why lifetimemothers site is set up this way is beyond my grasp. What I have learned from this discussion is that the www.lifetimemothers.com/home url isn't cached, but www.lifetimemothers.com is.
All other pages on the site have the same issue of not being found in the cached image except those pages related to reciprical links that are the result of the Link partners link exchange program. I can only think its due to this redirect issue.
If you could, could you give a little more clarification to your response.
Posted 07 October 2003 - 08:33 AM
You'll need to find out from the site owners, the history, and then you'll have your answers. We can sit and guess at it all day, but that isn't going to be very productive, when somebody, somewhere, already has the answers!
Posted 07 October 2003 - 09:03 AM
If not, I would recommend setting up a 301 permanent redirect from the old IP number to the new one.
Then if you have not done so already, you will want to submit the new site to all the various directories - Open Directory, JoeAnt, GoGuides, etc. This will help build the site's link popularity as well as help it get indexed in Google and other crawler based engines.
How long has the new site existed anyway?
Posted 07 October 2003 - 12:50 PM
The size of the page is 65 KB and the images take a total of 280 KB. That will take forever using a modem.
There is a stylesheet, but it is only used for a couple of elements. All the visual formatting should be moved to the stylesheet. That would already decrease the size of the page. I would also suggest moving the Products by Type Index to a separate site map page. That would cut the page size in half.
The images should be optimized. Google for "image optimizer". Removing or moving some of the images should also be considered.
Posted 07 October 2003 - 01:50 PM
I had set out to help my friend because he has a successful site but pays roughly 100 k per year to pay per click engines. The site was constructed by a group who have successfully sold a core package with mods for ecommerce.
As I read everyones responses I now in a quandry as what to do next. If his site needs a lot of work so that it can be cleanly optimized that poses a different set of issues.
Since I'm not that fluent in HTML it difficult to interpret many of the recomendations. For the life of me 1) I don't understand why there is a redirect from the home page, and 2) what impact this has on the site being indexed by google.
Posted 07 October 2003 - 02:24 PM
a super optimied page lists at the top of search results. when someone clicks on it they are immedialtly redirected to another page. to protect the quality of the search resluts search engines sometimes throw a small penalty on sites with short redirects or may even ban them if the algorithm flags it as spam
Posted 07 October 2003 - 02:32 PM
I don't always understand why people do this either. Sometimes they do it to divert to a shopping cart directory. Other times they are detecting browser types or plug-ins such as Flash and the like.
For the life of me 1) I don't understand why there is a redirect from the home page, and 2) what impact this has on the site being indexed by google.
Not sure of the purpose for redirection on your site but it seems to be a server side redirect. It should not have any negative impact on your indexing efforts.
I still wonder how new or old your site is though as well as to the purpose of the old domain I found - tomotherswithlove.com.
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