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Scottie's Article On "aging Delay" In Hr Advisor


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#1 Irony

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 01:45 AM

It's just a great article! Clear, logical, facts only - no speculations. And most important - really very reassuring smile.gif Thanks Scottie!

Yet another thing about it I like very much: it seems to have the term confusion sorted out at last. There have been so many different definitions of sandbox floating around during the whole 2004 - and it resulted in total misunderstanding on forums whenever another sandbox discussion started.

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Stop tweaking and changing things, trying to influence your rankings; until the site has been in the index a while, it doesn't seem to matter what you do to it.


Ok! I'll go zz.gif then

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#2 train99

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 03:30 AM

I think the article reaffirms my thinking. Just keep adding content and links and the pages will climb.

I am not to sure about the subdomains not being effected. I added a subdomain to one of my sites in August. It's only been in the past 5 or 6 weeks that I have been seeing a lot of traffic from google.

Oddly for the subdomain, The keywords I target are coming up OK, but the result is the anchor text from the index page? It takes a few weeks for the page itself to be directly linked in the results.

That could be part of the whole aging thing. Each page immediatly has 100+ inbound links from my sites and other sites. Because those links are within a RSS feed, the majority only exist for a day or two.

I have a new site that I am building this month about toy cars. I just put up a few pages and will start getting inbound links from other toy car sites. I should be able to get similar search results for the toy car pages as I get now for the toy train pages.

Last time I added a page to the toy train site it went to #1 on google in three days and has stayed there. I just rebuilt that page so it is about toy cars.

I took a look at the top ten results for the two terms I am targeting on google, and I am sure I can get a top ten result with I page I built. We will see how long it takes to get there.

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 08:42 AM

It was an A+ article!

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#4 Scottie

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 09:54 AM

Thank you!

We get so many posts with people thinking that they've done something wrong, and it's just not the case. People are also confusing that time delay with a link filter, which very well could exist. But I tend to think it was just the bulk linkers that first noticed the delay and with typical cause-and-effect reasoning, decided that their overzealous linking was the problem.

It might be part of it, but the evidence I've seen is that the delay affects any new domain. After that there may be a linking issue as well..

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 10:03 AM

QUOTE(Jill @ Jan 13 2005, 09:42 AM)
It was an A+ article!
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I agree it was just what I need to read clapping.gif

#6 Scottie

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE(tomsk @ Jan 13 2005, 10:03 AM)
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#7 Shane

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 11:06 AM

Got a link to the article? I looked at the latest newsletter linked from the site, but couldn't find "aging" or "delay" anywhere in that one.

#8 BobetteKyle

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 12:49 PM

Looks like Jill hasn't posted it to the site yet. Will be here in the High Rankings® Advisor archives.

Edited by BobetteKyle, 13 January 2005 - 08:57 PM.


#9 Scottie

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 08:07 PM

Here's my version of it:

Google's Aging Delay for New Sites

#10 Jill

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 12:20 AM

it's up now!

#11 Steve Sardell

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 01:28 AM

Scottie

Good logical point

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We used to keep a site under wraps and launch it once it was "perfect." Now it makes sense to get a few pages up for your new site as soon as you complete them. The sooner Google is aware of the domain, the better.

As soon as you have a domain name, get the hosting set up, put up a temporary page and link to it from another site in Google's index to start that clock ticking.


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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:10 PM

As of the last domain I helped move (about a month and a half ago), the advice on switching domains is still working fine. FYI. biggrin.gif

I'm glad it helped you guys!

I want to emphasize again (although it's in the article) that you do need to be transitioning existing links to the new domain or your new domain will take longer to come out of the aging filter. When it's aged (seems to be something like 4-9 months these days) change the redirect to a 301 to get credit for the existing links that you couldn't get changed over.

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 08:19 PM

That's good to know. I'll keep that in mind next time a client wants to do the stupidly insane and change domains smile.gif

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 05:00 AM

How right is that eh!

I just love the conversations with clients that go.

I want a new domain name.
ME: WHY?
I just do
ME: It is dangerous and is gonna upset the apple cart for a while at least
I don't see why
ME : OH here we go again biggrin.gif

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 11:36 AM

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I want a new domain name.
ME: WHY?
I just do


love it - we got a client today who wants an .it domain when both .co.uk and .com are available BTW no italioan copy on the site!




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