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#1 linux_lover

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 03:19 PM

Hello fellow SEO types,

I am gonna do some work on one of my sites over xmas to see if I can boost its ranking more... as you might have noticed I am primarilly a coder type and learning SEO to benefit sales of my partners site...

Anyway I was thinking of investing in some 'bought' links to boost my PR...

Is this a good idea, and can anyone recommend any good sites if it is?

I dont really have the time to spend building links myself - so I guess its either that or pay someone to do it for me smile.gif

Happy xmas everyone!

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 03:48 PM

If you're going to buy links, my only recommendation is to buy them from a site or sites from which you have reason to believe real people will have reason to click through. That is, don't buy them just to boost your PR and rankings, because you really can't count on them working in that department unless you're prepared to keep them up for quite a long time.

I was hired a few months ago just to do link building for a site. I strongly recommended that they allow me to make some changes to their site first, but they said they had a limited budget and just wanted to do links. So I submitted them to some complementary sites and a few niche directories, and they got about 15 links out of it -- not a lot, but all of it quite relevant.

I noticed last week that their backlinks had jumped into the mid-forties, so I ran a link check on them, and I saw a bunch of links all from the same site. When I went to any of those page, I saw no link, so I took a look at the cached copies of the pages, and there was my client's ad.

Apparently, they had run the links for a couple of months -- just long enough for the search engines to pick them up -- and then dropped them, so another backlink update and they'll be gone. At least the site they'd advertised on was relevant to their business, so hopefully they got some decently targeted traffic out of this. And I haven't seen them jump up in the rankings for their keywords, so it really didn't help them much there, and I'm betting the ads they ran for a few months probably cost them about what they would have spent to have me fix up their on-page content.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 05:38 PM

QUOTE(linux_lover @ Dec 18 2004, 03:19 PM)
Anyway I was thinking of investing in some 'bought' links to boost my PR...

Goodness LiLo! You've been at this forum long enough to know that boosting PR shouldn't be your goal!

If you want to buy links to increase the anchor text links pointing to your page, you might be on to something. But buying links to boost PR? unsure.gif

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 05:43 PM

dont waste your money on buying links... join link market...very nice link exchangin system

#5 linux_lover

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 06:43 AM

QUOTE(Jill @ Dec 18 2004, 06:38 PM)
Goodness LiLo! You've been at this forum long enough to know that boosting PR shouldn't be your goal!

If you want to buy links to increase the anchor text links pointing to your page, you might be on to something.  But buying links to boost PR?  unsure.gif

Lol Jill, what I say isnt necessarily what I mean!

Yes I know its the anchor text and inbound links not PR I am really just looking at all my options. I think.... its just time I need to spend on building links I was hoping for some sort of quick fix but I know it doesnt work like that.

Being a coder I would make a getHighRanking() function or something that would do it for me lol.gif

What I really mean.... is paying for directories like wedding related directories for example that would a) send me relevant visitors and cool.gif hopefully help rank me better.

The fact that I list on page #1 on all search engines bar google for my term 'bridal tiaras' (in uk search) says to me that its the links + anchor text etc... its just that thats time consuming and I am always busy! So I guess either make some time for it or hire someone to do it for me smile.gif I have no idea what one charges for link building work so I dont know how econimical that route would be.

Cheers for the info Qwerty, serp I have tried link exchanges (well one of them) and found it utterly crap - lots of irrelevant sites wanting to link with me that would be of no benefit. I think i added it to my spam list smile.gif

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 12:34 PM

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Being a coder I would make a getHighRanking() function or something that would do it for me lol.gif


Not as lol as you might think. Talk to the blackhatters on the SES panel. If you pay them enough, they'll simply plug you into their network and get you ranking on any keyword phrase you want. (Or so they say...don't know if it's all talk or not!)

But seriously (and I was only half serious above), the thing I hear most often is this: "I want to rank highly, but I don't want to spend any a.) Time, b.) Money.

You have to be willing to put in either (better yet both) time and money to succeed in anything in life and business. (This is not directed at you, LiLo...just a general ranting.gif )

Some guy at the conference was wondering how much he had to change his copy on his 3000 regional pages in order not to be filtered out. They guy from Yahoo said "4.222389282299 %" lol.gif Which of course was a joke. When you tell the guy, "hey here's an idea...how about you actually WRITE unique stuff for each regional page" he says, "but it's too hard and there's too many."

Fine then...spend the rest of your life looking for the quick fix.

Again, this is not directed at anyone in particular, not even that guy at the conference. I'm just tired of hearing the same thing, year after year after year....

#7 linux_lover

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 02:57 PM

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You have to be willing to put in either (better yet both) time and money to succeed in anything in life and business.


I totally agree, and I dont mind putting in either. To me all this is fun (pure geek) so its really just desiding whats going to make me rich :tooth:

I do believe in learning the most efficient way to do something - as time is money and therefore to be more efficient is to save on both. This is why this forum (and other online tech forums) is so useful smile.gif

So.... link building this xmas for Lilo...

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 08:28 PM

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To me all this is fun (pure geek) so its really just desiding whats going to make me rich 


lol.gif I assumed I was the only one that thought linking was fun.

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Is this a good idea, and can anyone recommend any good sites if it is?


I agree with what's written above about buying links to boost PageRank - but - will admit to using the meter of green as one of my criteria when buying links.

I say buy the links if they'll benefit your site and it's marketing goals, you have the money to spend and the resources to monitor them.

Before you plunk down any money, do a little checking to be sure the site you're going to pay attracts visitors that buy your products. Any site that won't share it's stats with you regarding this kind of info is one I'd avoid.

Niche directories are a good option, they are usually very economical and have relevant visitors. Go to the category where your link will be housed and backlink the sites listed there. Do they show the directory in their backlinks? If they don't, you have a decision to make. You can visit a site like the ISEDB.com for a list of directories or pay a directory submission service. (why..... I know of a good one! tongue.gif )

Another suggestion - visit a blogging search engine such as daypop.com and search for blogs in your niche. Once you find them, look at their advertising terms and find a couple with high traffic and popular in your demographic. Blog advertising is usually less exspensive and with more and more journalists and content development people using blogs as an info source, advertising on one in your niche is smart.

Hope those recommendations help. And Happy Holidays to you too!

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 03:53 AM

Thankyou for your most helpful suggestions Debra, I will bear them in mind smile.gif

Happy xmas to you too!




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