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Posted 30 September 2003 - 11:32 AM
I client of mine has recently asked me if it is possible to put keywords and optimizerd text within the <noembed> tag so that his web site would be SE freindly. I was wondering if there are any issues that I should know about when using this technique.
Is it considered "spammy"?
Will it cause any trouble with Search engines?
Is it done/legal?
Do all major search engines support it?
Thanks you to everyone who responds to thi message.
Posted 30 September 2003 - 11:48 AM
So, if you've got some piece of flash which contains certain information, it's ok to put the same information into a noembed tag.
I think anything else would be a potential problem.
Posted 30 September 2003 - 12:06 PM
Posted 30 September 2003 - 12:44 PM
If it's the kind of content you want spiders to see, I would hope you'd want humans to see it too.
Posted 30 September 2003 - 12:57 PM
If you can clarify this, we may be able to give you better alternatives.
If the answer is simply cuz the client won't add content/copy, then you're SOL, cuz the answer is to add visible keyword-rich copy!
Posted 01 October 2003 - 10:49 AM
But in this case, the proper tag would be <p> since you really do want the spider and the visitor to be seeing the same thing in almost all cases.
Remember that "search engine friendly" is different from "search engine deceit" and some people are so focused on getting traffic they forget that. The best thing to do is let your boss know that it's only search engine friendly if people and machines are reading the same stuff. Good luck - I've had clients like that.
Hmm, That reminds me. Maybe this will help a bit.
I have a client who managed to get banned from Google, then called me in to see if I could help them out. They are not "evil spammers" or the scum of the earth, they are simply some people with a great product that got overexcited about internet promotion and took some shortcuts.
Anyway, they are not banned anymore and I'm working towards getting them some nice high rankings, but the other day I was asked if I could get the page rated highly for keyword X. Now, Keyword X has NOTHING to do with his business. It's more of a competitor (kind of like having a car dealership ask you to optimise for "motorcycle" even though they don't sell them.)
I said, sure, but we will need some content for that - maybe a few pages. He then asked if I could just put in some "metatags or something" because he didn't have content for it.
The shock must have been pretty obvious on my face (after all, I had just got him UNbanned!) so he explained: It turns out that people will often look for Keyword X as a gift for clients, but HIS product was much better than that. I asked why that would be.
He pointed out, with some eloquence, that although keyword X was a "traditional" gift, it had many shortcomings, which he listed, that his product addressed, which he also listed. My response was that although it would be unacceptable to rank for content he doesn't have, it's quite another thing to have a "product comparision" page chock full of juicy spider food and at the same time very helpful to visitors. So that's what I'm doing now.
The moral is: just because that's what the client (or boss) asks for, doesn't mean it's what they REALLY want - it may be that they don't know about or think about some other way of doing things that is better, so they just asked for what they did know because it was close.
Perhaps there is an alternate way of approaching the problem. I'd look into that - it's might save you some trouble, since going to the boss and saying "No" without an acceptable alternative is usually a bad idea.
Edited by mcanerin, 01 October 2003 - 11:17 AM.
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