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#136 Presentationrentals

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 09:48 AM

Hey Jill,

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I hope you don’t see this follow up post as arguing with the big cheese (as we say in Wisconsin) because that is not my intent.

The above two directories are ones I recommended because I have manually applied to a good many over the last 2 months and fount them to be not yet listed in this string and of a quality nature. Some of the directories owned my members here are excellent but I was trying to add new content to this forum.

I’ve found some real duds in this list but from my few months here I felt this forum tried to focus on the positive as much as possible. Something I really like about your forum.

All Links Directory is small, from a quick count I just did it has only 3,348 listings but it has a (ok I’m ducking now as this is sure to make you unhappy) PR6 and in just one click on Business I get to the page that has my site. That page also has a PR6 and looks like it gets spidered by Google often based on the cache dates. Also I got ‘listed’ with a minimal of hassle and was added in less then one business day.

Lets compare this with two well known directories

DMOZ – also free. So far so good. Its big and should be in this list. The problem is the wait. I submitted months ago and have done the follow up post in the proper forum; I even read and followed the instructions providing a live clickable link to the submitted category. What did I get? A note that told me it’s in the queue and I can’t inquire again for 6 months.

(Name being withheld but it ends in Ant) Again it belongs in this list and has a free option by becoming an editor, although at first you don’t get to edit anything except your own site when it gets rejected. Here is how this works. You submit your site then wait. Keep checking back and one day another editor will send you a note “Change this, do that and resubmit.” It does not go back to that editor it goes to another editor at random. Here is the type of replies I got. “Don’t use all capitals in your title, make the words after the first word non-capital” (The title was Presentation Rentals). I changed it to Presentation rentals. A few days pass and another editor sends a message “Capitalize each word of your business name” so I change it back to Presentation Rentals. This goes on for a good ½ dozen edits, mostly changing things only to change them back until finally I get in. I felt like Silvester McMonkey McBean. I’m now in but it’s deep into a sub-sub-sub category with no page rank and based on another feature of the Google toolbar is not in the Google cache.

So of the above three IMHO the first one is important although I would still recommend submitting to the other two.

OK. Looking back at this maybe your post was not pointed at me. Since it was after my post I assume it was, but who knows.

Again I am in the process of building a directory but I have not posted it here and it is not yet at a level that would even make my cut as a important directory. I was only trying to recommend some directories that I felt were worth wile.

PS Besides traffic, directories serve the purpose of increasing your backlinks. If that is not what you want this string to be about can we start one that is? I just don’t think I’m the only member that sees the dual benefit of a directory listing.

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 11:18 AM

PresRen...I wasn't specifically talking about the directory(s) you mentioned here, just many of the ones I see here, in general.

I really haven't looked much at this thread, and decided to click a few today, and was just dissapointed in what I found. It was nothing personal towards you or your recommendations.

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And it's no problem, disagree with this big cheese all you want. You don't need to qualify any disagreements. I'm really not very big, and I'm not even very cheesy, although I do like to eat it a lot! eat.gif And even more so than not being a big cheese, I'm also known to be wrong quite a bit, and if nobody ever corrected me in those cases cuz they thought I was a big cheese kinda gal, this forum would go downhill pretty quickly!


Ohhh...just noticed your reference to Sylvester McMonkey McBean! smile.gif He's one of my favorite characters of all time. Certainly my favorite name for a character! And boy, what a racket that guy had! lol.gif

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 11:09 PM

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"All Links Directory is small, from a quick count I just did it has only 3,348 listings but it has a (ok I’m ducking now as this is sure to make you unhappy) PR6 and in just one click on Business I get to the page that has my site. That page also has a PR6 and looks like it gets spidered by Google often based on the cache dates. Also I got ‘listed’ with a minimal of hassle and was added in less then one business day."

All that is true, but it uses a redirect rather than a clean link. Also, you have to link to them from your home page.

#139 Presentationrentals

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 08:56 AM

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All that is true, but it uses a redirect rather than a clean link. Also, you have to link to them from your home page.


I hate being put in this situation of defending something that is not mine (I am not associated with All Links except as being listed with them. Since I am the one that added them to the list and since your information is incorrect I think it would be an injustice to not post and correct the information in your post.

#1 it uses a redirect rather than a clean link - this is an option.

This is not unique to this site and is not devious in any way. Just today Jill discussed this here and she said
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Affiliate links on the other hand aren't usually direct links, they have some tracking code on them. They don't always count towards link pop. either.


#2 Also, you have to link to them from your home page.

I just added my site a few days ago and didn’t see that anywhere. I did not link to them from my home page. Where did you read this? I think you may be confusing this directory with another. Maybe it was a option that I do not remember but it for sure is not a requirement.

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 10:00 AM

Maybe they've changed this since you submitted your site, but I just signed up for an ID/password, and when I went in to add a link, this is what I read:

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A reciprocal link from your site to  All Links  is required for your link to be added.  You will be given unique linking code after adding your site.  If you prefer a graphic link, our banners and buttons

We must be able to locate the link to our site from the front page of your site or your site will be deleted from our directory.

Please fill out the form completely, and we will add your site as soon as we confirm your reciprocal link.  No adult sites or sites with objectionable content please.  We reserve the right to select which sites are included in this directory.


(Note: the words "banners and buttons" above were a link to a page of, well, banners and buttons one could use for linking. And the paragraph about how they must be able to find the reciprocal link was in LARGE RED text, so it's pretty hard to miss...)

So it looks as though they do require a link back, and one from your home page to boot.

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 10:02 AM

I don't think that says the link has to be from your home page. It has to be from a page that is accessible from your home page.

#142 torka

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 10:15 AM

I agree it's not very clearly worded.

I was interpreting it as "we need to be able to locate a link to our site from the home page of your site", as in, the link needs to be to their site from the home page of my site.

But it could also be as you suggest, that they need to be able to locate the link from the home page of my site, as in, as long as it's on a page accessible from the home page so that they can find it that way, that would be okay.

The main reason I interpreted it the way I did was that there wasn't anywhere on the page to list the URL of the page that actually contained the link, just the page that you'd like listed in the directory (typically the home page of the site, I would think). Which would mean that they would potentially have to visit every page on my site trying to find the link -- since they're all linked at least indirectly both from and to the home page. Which could be a very time-consuming process... so I assumed that what they meant was that the link had to be on my home page in order to simplify their verification process.

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I just visited a couple of the pages that have been added recently to the directory, and it appears that those folks are also interpreting it the way you did. Maybe the All-links people just need to clean up their copywriting! smile.gif
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Edited by torka, 13 October 2004 - 10:24 AM.


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Posted 13 October 2004 - 10:35 AM

Additional information:

Jill's interpretation is correct. They spell it out more clearly on the "how to link" page that you get after you add a site. smile.gif

When you add a site, you're given a link URL with a tracking code. They say that the more visitors you bring them, the higher your page will rank in the directory, and they encourage you to put the link on as many pages of your site as possible in order to bring in more traffic for them.

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 02:54 PM

re: blog submissions

The famous list of where to submit a blog (and the RSS feed) is here:
http://www.masternew....org/rss/top55/

Just happened on this thread today. Surprised no one had mentioned this site before for blogs.

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 02:37 AM

I've just come across a directory of directories and SEs that I haven't seen before.

I know I'm risking howls of derision from everybody who knows it well, but I've run several searches on the forum and I can't see any other references to it, so here goes...

http://www.enfin.com


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Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:52 AM

QUOTE(Connie @ Oct 7 2004, 05:59 PM)
Did you make a mistake on  Skijungle.com?  I can't access the site.  I did find and
submit to the other site you listed Greenstalk.com.

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sorry its ski-jungle.com My bad. Staying up too late and getting up too early!

#147 spidbot

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Posted 27 October 2004 - 11:19 PM

QUOTE(nedguy @ Oct 22 2004, 08:37 PM)
I've just come across a directory of directories and SEs that I haven't seen before.

I know I'm risking howls of derision from everybody who knows it well, but I've run several searches on the forum and I can't see any other references to it, so here goes...

http://www.enfin.com


NG

No derision from down here in NZ - just trawled through this whole thread from start to finish and find what I wanted right at the end - thanks NG - perhaps I should have started at the end but we are a little upside down here :upsidedown: :upsidedown:

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 11:54 PM

New Directory showing backlinks: www.seekon.info

Edited by qwerty, 31 October 2004 - 08:37 AM.


#149 Presentationrentals

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 01:07 PM

InCrawler – Free listing with reciprocal link. My site was added promptly.

USA Directory – Free listing with reciprocal link. My site was added promptly.

Favourite Link - Free listing with reciprocal link. My listing from this directory is showing up as a backlink in Google. thumbup1.gif

I was thinking of calling out a few undesirable directories but that is not in the spirit of this thread. By undesirable they make you link to them then never add my site or take it off in time or put me on a spam list that seems to never end. I even found one that does not include the sites listings in its own search results, only pay per click ads. All the ones I have posted including the three above I can recommend without reservation.

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Posted 17 November 2004 - 05:11 AM

My personal list of SE-friendly directory listings is here:
http://www.platinax....ers/articles/6/




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