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Firefox -- Yeah!
Posted 18 November 2004 - 08:32 PM
Posted 18 November 2004 - 09:26 PM
I'm not a web designer, SEO, or much of anything but an Old Missouri Red Neck. There is a reason any one involved in E commerce would design for IE. Over 90% of my visitors use IE. Believe it or not I still have some visitors using IE3.
I still use NetScape 4.7 to view my site at times to make sure my html and CSS will work in some older browsers. I also check with Opera, and NetScape 7.2 and FireFox.
FireFox is the browser I normally use. Actually don't like it as much as IE but use it because of security issues.
FireFox has some issues for me. I can't view flash files. Not going to go through what Bob did to view a flash file. Not many I want to see. I can't do a credit at Authorize.net with FireFox. Glad I don't have to do to many credits but when I do I have to use IE. My Password manager will not work with FireFox. Another issue on these forums, my ISP breaks the connection when I click the submitt button, once reconnected I can't just hit the submitt button again. I have to preview the post. Just happened which is why I thought of it.
FireFox or any other browser is not going to be a serious contender against IE until they can get it installed as part of the operating software that a manufacture puts on a PC bought off the shelf, and or get ISPs to offer it as an option.
FireFox and other browsers will continue to grow in populartity with people in the SEO , and related industries.
I think It will be a lot of years before you can drop IE as the primary browser to design for.
Just my worth
Posted 19 November 2004 - 04:07 AM
Install the Macromedia Flash plugin, its pretty simple to do. You just download an exe file and run it.... Flash works fine for me. Ok so with IE all you have to do is visit a flash site (well not now actually as IE now blocks pretty much everything by default leaving anti tech people screwed as they wont understand whats going on).
They will soon learn when they see they are losing money from it...
Thats nothing to do with Firefox... if your on dial up try changing your 'drop connection after X periods of inactivity' in internet settings.
Thats only an issue for people new to computing who dont know/choose to understand how to use their machine properly. Its Microsofts only winning card atm and one of the reasons they keep getting sued (trying to hold back linux comments). Its the same reason why I think MSN search will be popular.... as its built into the default search of IE (at least last time I checked).
That is true unfortunately... my stats say last month about 97% of people used IE to visit my sites(s)
Theres a whole debate here one thats been going on for years.... put your hands up if you remember the browser wars.
Posted 19 November 2004 - 07:36 AM
I remember. I was one of the losers.
I didn't get online until around '98, and I was given responsibility for running my first site in late '99. During that time, I was a Netscape 4.something user. I found it far superior to IE at the time.
But when I had to start taking care of my company's site, I found that it just made sense to switch to IE. I'd be studying competitors' sites and they just wouldn't work unless I used IE. So I hated to switch, but I switched.
Posted 19 November 2004 - 07:48 AM
No, it's not enough to make me switch back, but you'd think the browser would be able to handle something like that.
Posted 19 November 2004 - 10:41 AM
I didn't have much time but I took a quick glance at your scripts. The main div that you are applying the 'overflow:auto' to is a container that also holds the header, footer and other divs. One of those divs (the addr) is included inside a span tag, which is an inline element, so the page is not valid. You can't place block elements inside inline elements.
I took the 'overflow:auto' out of that main div and applied it to the one containing the text (that div only has an inline style) and the scrollbar worked correctly with the mouse wheel. But it screwed up the rest of the page layout of course, as I didn't adjust everything else. It was just a crude check to see if the scrollbar would work correctly when 'overflow:auto' was applied to the correct div.
I don't think it's FF, just some script errors that IE is overcoming, but FF is not. If you run it through a validator you'll see the 'div' inside a 'span' error show up.
Posted 19 November 2004 - 11:07 AM
I know about the problem with the span. That's the reason I had to get rid of the Valid HTML button.
Posted 19 November 2004 - 02:15 PM
Posted 19 November 2004 - 03:50 PM
Copy as plain text - great for grabbing stuff into notepad
Remove this object - good for taking stuff out of pages
View this page in IE - a quick way of switching to IE for ActiveX pages
WebMailCompose - I only have webmail so when I click a mailto: link I get word, but with this it goes straight to GMail Compose.
Is there an extension that remembers my open tabs so when I exit/reload I get my tabs back, similar to Opera? (I know about the multi-bookmark method)
Posted 19 November 2004 - 10:37 PM
Posted 20 November 2004 - 12:24 AM
Posted 20 November 2004 - 03:55 AM
Yes... even though I pretty much cant stand MS and IE, the blue E does occasionally draw my mouse pointer in... theres gotta be somthing psychological there.
Or it could be that I was just drunk at the time
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