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#1 djwade

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 07:13 PM

Hi

I launched my site at the end of September and need some help on the best way of getting my site listed on search engines and directories.

I have tried coming up with suitable titles along with working on my page key words and descriptions. My HTML as far as I can see, should be search engine friendly, is that the case?

I have starting submitting my site to various shopping portals and search engines, should I continue to do this?

I know it takes a while to get listed but is their something else I should be doing in the mean time, as my stats are a lot lower then what I was excepting.

Cheers

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#2 Connie

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 08:12 PM

Hi Darren and welcome to the forums. bye1.gif

I'm not sure what you mean by submitting to shopping portals, but you do not need to submit to SEs. It is a waste of time. You need to get links from Directories and other sites if possible. The SEs will find your site from links to your site from other sites.

If your site is new this will take time. There is no magic answer. Patience is a virtue. If you don't have Patience you will learn.

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#3 Jill

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 10:58 PM

Welcome dwade! bye1.gif

I would suggest reading through the Tips For Newbies articles to see what you may have missed.

If you have any specific questions about what you read, feel free to ask 'em here!

Good luck!

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#4 djwade

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 06:02 PM

Hi

Thanks for the replies. I have been following most of the tips you have suggested and have been submitting my site to as many shopping portals (directories) as possible, but my page rank is still not very high.

I have only seen a few spiders index my site and I just don't know what to do next.

Should I just be trying to get my site listing on as many sites as possible or should I be aiming for certain types of sites i.e that have a high page ranking.

Would it be a good idea to start purchasing keywords????

I also wanted to say this forum has been really useful.

Cheers

Darren

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 06:42 PM

Welcome to the forum, Darren! bye1.gif

Natural or editorial results require time. No way around it really, especially now with new sites getting "sandboxed" or filtered from the results for a while.

If you need results now, consider doing a PPC campaign until your other listings catch up. In the meantime, find something that will make your site different from all the others selling the same thing- and linkworthy.

Do you have a greater selection? More service? Fun tips for fancy wrapping techniques? Original cards that can't be found elsewhere? If your site really is better than the competition (and you are creative in how you approach promoting it) you will gain more business now and eventually the engines will catch up. thumbup1.gif

#6 Jill

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 08:05 PM

So you're following all the advice in the articles on the Tips for Newbies? You sure you didn't miss anything?

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE(djwade @ Nov 7 2004, 06:02 PM)
Hi

Thanks for the replies. I have been following most of the tips you have suggested and have been submitting my site to as many shopping portals (directories) as possible, but my page rank is still not very high.

I have only seen a few spiders index my site and I just don't know what to do next.

Should I just be trying to get my site listing on as many sites as possible or should I be aiming for certain types of sites i.e that have a high page ranking.

Would it be a good idea to start purchasing keywords????

I also wanted to say this forum has been really useful.

Cheers

Darren

Continue to submit to directories. That is good. Personally I avoid directories that require a back link. You do not need to submit to SEs.

If you have the budget PPC SEs can produce some quick traffic and possibly sales. Just be careful because you can spend a lot of money and not get any sales. Work into this area slowly on PPC SE at a time.

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Posted 08 November 2004 - 08:28 AM

I'm not sure whether you use search facility on your web site, if you do then you may also want to list your products/services in a list of static URLs to allow SE spiders to index each individual product advert.

While your submitting the sites you may also want to consider what type of sites you would like linking back to you or from you and if you haven't done so already set up a linking criteria where you can consider type of sites you want to link with that will benefit your customer base and type of sites you don't want to link to and from.

I'm currently setting up a linking criteria on my sites and asking people to send me
their

Contact details
Link URL
Brief description of their site, no more than 40 words
The reason why it would be useful for our site to link to theirs

Then when I am away from my sites submitting, I'm hoping that some shining quality relevant site is emailing me.

Remember when linking to another site, check out the page rank of the page you are linking from and number of links already on that page. If possible choose pages with a low page rank and less links or high page rank with just a few links.


Hope this makes sense

Griff

#9 djwade

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Posted 08 November 2004 - 05:13 PM

Hi

Thanks again for all your advice. I think I'm following most of the advice but I don't know if my page titles are killer page titles and I think my meta data could be improved, I think this is a work in progress.

It just really hard when you spend a whole lot of time building the site to find that nobody is visiting it?

Cheers

Darren

#10 Jill

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Posted 08 November 2004 - 07:54 PM

Don't worry about your meta data, that's not gonna help you get ranked.

How's your content? Have you thoroughly researched your keyword phrases? Do you have a good handle on your target audience?

#11 djwade

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 05:22 PM

Hi Jill

It's hard to write a huge amount of content and make it work for the user and search engines. Do you have any advice on how to do this? What is the best way to research the most relevant keywords?

All of this is still new to me but I'm slowly learning.

Cheers

Darren

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 05:32 PM

Take a look at www.123promotion.co.uk/ppc/

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 05:55 PM

QUOTE(djwade @ Nov 9 2004, 05:22 PM)
It's hard to write a huge amount of content and make it work for the user and search engines.

Umm...see my sig?

And for keywords, buy a subscription to WordTracker.




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