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[DNAWebGuy]

I have a site that is #1 on yahoo for my 2 phrase search term. On google however, it is being filtered. I searched scroogle, and I have a site that would be #1 for my top 2 phrase search term. I have read://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/google-flo...orida-chart.htm about the Google filter, which was very helpful, but I am looking for something more specific.
I had the keyphrase in my Title, meta keywords, meta description, body, H1, H2, link text, link title, and alt tag. I have since removed it from the meta keywords, link text, link title, and alt tags. Can anyone else recommend anything else?

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[amabaie]

Patience.

[DNAWebGuy]

I made the changes today, but my site has been around for over 1 year, and has been caught in the filter for months....

[Michael]

nine months and counting for me in over 100 keyword terms...can't wait to get let out. By the way, you may find it useful to try the following search:

allinanchor: KEYWORD WORD(s)

Using this search seems to show results as they would appear without the filter, though that may just be wishful thinking on my part as I'm #1 and top ten for many of my best phrases when using this...

[Martin C]

allinanchor: KEYWORD WORD(s)

Wow - I just tried this for my site and was placed 7th - normally I am no where to be seen on Google. Can anyone tell me if this is a good sign, i.e. just carry on doing what your doing and things should come good or, is it something bad that I have done which is causing it to be filtered out and I won't get anywhere until I fix it, or is it just Google playing mind games with me?

[tomsk]

allinanchor: KEYWORD WORD(s)

Wow - I just tried this for my site and was placed 7th - normally I am no where to be seen on Google. Can anyone tell me if this is a good sign.

All it really means Martin is that you have change the criteria of your search term, so you have asked Google to look for site that have anchor text contain your keywords.

So it should show for example: http://www.google.co...le Search&meta=

It’s a good way however of seeing if a keyword might be competitive.

[Michael]

interesting to point out that the exact same results show up for tomsk's "allinural: highrankings" and just a search for "highrankings". Is it just wishful thinking that this may be a window into SERPs without the "filter"?

[Randy]

Could be wishful thinking Michael.

In the original discussions of this over optimization penalty, that is really just an algo tweak, many found that non-competitive terms were completely unaffected. While more competitive terms were vastly affected.

That's how the thought came up that Google was trying to force e-comm sites to purchase Adwords traffic. Because those were the sites that were typically targeting the more competitive phrases.

My opinion? There's probably something to the competitiveness of the phrase. But I rather doubt Google was actively trying to force anyone into Adwords. Just a change in their algorithm.

[Michael]

Not sure I am interpreting your comment correctly...

Are you saying that the allinanchor: discrepency (i.e. good results with allinanchor: query) solely suggests that the page/pages have been over optimized?

That is certainly something I can work on if need be....but I'm doubious about that being the issue...

[Randy]

No, no. Sorry to confuse. Who knows whether it has anything to do with being over optimized, whatever that is.

Just that if you do normal and allinanchor type searches for a non-competitive phrase such as "highrankings" you won't see nearly as much difference as if you had conducted the same searches for a more competitive phrase.

Try "high rankings" to make it actual words instead and I'd be willing to bet that you'll see a lot more movement, though I suspect Jill will still be in 1st place because she uses both.

[Michael]

Thanks for the clarification.

You are right - I see more movement....what I notice about that movement is that up and comers...newer sites...sites that currently rank well in yahoo and msn, but NOT in Google...they appear at or towards the top. I can't say why, but it seems consisent with removal of the filter to me. Can anyone give me an example where this is not the case? Feel free to PM me if you want to see the keywords I'm using.

- Michael